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Post by Croftian » 27 Jun 2021 23:36

Census : Entering text from source, I add all refs below the templated output (belts & braces !) ,after pressing 'text' for the full note window. All appears fine, and I copy the entire note to a rtf. file.
When I close AS note the text changes (see attachments). Is it something I'm doing wrong ? The same thing has happened on a no. of different entries, No idea where the "swiss" text has come from!!

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Re: Text from source

Post by NickWalker » 28 Jun 2021 08:58

Hi Ian

I'm not really clear why the data below the census grid has been added, but certainly there seem to be some formatting issues there with AS adding an indent in the first cell and the 'swiss' too which is a bit odd. Did you paste all that data in from somewhere, I'm assuming you wouldn't have typed it all in? Assuming you copied and pasted it from somewhere, Would you be able to email me the document you copied it from so I can see if I can reproduce the issue? I haven't really done as much testing of copying and pasting formatted data because generally that's not how AS is used so it wouldn't surprise me that this kind of thing could happen.

Can you also check you are running AS 7.2.7?

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Re: Text from source

Post by LornaCraig » 28 Jun 2021 09:15

It looks to me as if most of the extra text has been copied direct from Findmypast. The words Household members (8 people) and the column for Birth Year and the Transcript of William's Record are all a format used by Findmypast.

I can't explain the swiss bit though!
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Re: Text from source

Post by Woodg » 28 Jun 2021 09:33

Excuse me for jumping in, but "swiss" is the name of a font and it looks quite like the font displayed in the screenshot. Maybe there is some issue with what was copied or how it was pasted. Or it could have nothing to do with the issue.

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Re: Text from source

Post by RS3100 » 28 Jun 2021 09:50

Wouldn't it be easier to cut and paste additional information into the source record after AS has finished doing its thing?

As an aside, the so called "transcripts" of census and other records used by FMP are often not true transcripts of the associated records as such. The one above being an example where they infer years of birth not present in the original record, and I find quite often that places of birth, occupations and even names can differ from the actual record when examined. As a (hopefully) more accurate transcript has been created by AS from user input, I'm not sure what value is added by attaching the FMP version, particularly if the original census image is also added to the source or citation.

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Re: Text from source

Post by NickWalker » 28 Jun 2021 10:02

Woodg wrote:
28 Jun 2021 09:33
Excuse me for jumping in, but "swiss" is the name of a font and it looks quite like the font displayed in the screenshot. Maybe there is some issue with what was copied or how it was pasted. Or it could have nothing to do with the issue.
Yes swiss is related to the font so I understand which part of AS might be generating this, I'm just not sure why. FH uses it's own internal method of recording rich text and the font definition can specify swiss. This whole area is very complex. The rich-text format (rtf) data that is pasted into AS can include lots of formatting that FH doesn't handle so AS strips all that out, converts it into the FH format and then converts that back into rtf again to display it. So I had to develop two quite complex converters (RTF->FH format and FH Format->RTF) - a number of the fixes since I released AS 7 have been in those two areas, hence asking whether Ian is using the latest version as there were some major improvements to this.
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