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Hiding occupations

Post by Ruth_W » 23 Apr 2021 11:01

Is there any way to hide an occupation? My specific example is my ancestor, who, on her death certificate, has her occupation as "Widow of James Wilson, joiner" which I want to keep in the record, but not have showing up as her occupation!

Also, is there a way to order occupations by preference? I know I can set a flag for one to be the preferred occupation, but I wonder if I could do the opposite. Again, a specific example, I don't particularly want one occupation of my ancestor to be more significant than the others, but the fact he was a 'scholar' aged 8 is less so than the others.

I am using Ancestral Sources to input the data from BMD etc, as I suspect that might be relevant.

[edited to change repetition of the word significant! but no hesitation or deviation, I trust]

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Re: Hiding occupations

Post by tatewise » 23 Apr 2021 11:28

You can delete the Occupation attribute that was presumably created by AS when you included that Occupation during the Death Certificate capture. The details of the Death Certificate are still in the Source record in the Text From Source field &/or the Media image.
Alternatively, mark that Occupation with the Private Flag so it is inhibited in Diagrams and Reports.

The FH Help page 'How to Flag a Fact as Preferred, Private, Tentative or Rejected' explains how the flags are applied.
I'm not sure I understand where you would want to order Occupations by preference.
Where do you want the Scholar when age 8 to be shown with a lower preference?
The fact Preferred Flag only has limited effect.
It determines which Occupation appears on the Main tab of the Property Box and can be chosen for Diagrams.
That is specifically designed to prevent early Occupations such as Scholar from appearing there.
But as the Help explains, setting more than one fact as Preferred has little effect.
Mike Tate ~ researching the Tate and Scott family history ~ tatewise ancestry

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Re: Hiding occupations

Post by NickWalker » 23 Apr 2021 12:42

When you record an occupation (and other data) in AS you do need to be considering this kind of thing - Widow is not an occupation. If you don't want the occupation to be recorded as a fact then don't enter it into the occupation box in AS and just edit the source text at the bottom to show this in your transcript. It's similar to the point I made in this post regarding census entries earlier in the week Auto Text.
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https://fhug.org.uk/kb/kb-article/ancestral-sources/

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Re: Hiding occupations

Post by Ruth_W » 23 Apr 2021 16:21

Excellent answers, thank-you. Yes, I thought that I would need to think about what I entered in AS - I'm fairly new to FH and AS, so I am learning some of the ins and outs, plus how to make it do what I want.

When I say that I would like to make an occupation, e.g. scholar as less important, it is because it shows up in the property box as that individual's occupation, where it would make more sense to have a later occupation, e.g. book keeper, show up there. Looking again, I can't quite see how FH "chooses" which occupation to show there - is it the one most recently entered? (I suppose it isn't really important, I can use the flag if it bothers me)

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Re: Hiding occupations

Post by ColeValleyGirl » 23 Apr 2021 16:29

The only way to choose is to use the flag, otherwise FH displays the first occupation for an individual (which is very often scholar).

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Re: Hiding occupations

Post by LornaCraig » 23 Apr 2021 17:31

Ruth, in case you didn't realise, it's possible for AS to include 'scholar' in the autotext (text from source) for a census without creating an occupation fact for Scholar. In AS use Tools>Options>Census settings and in the Occupation Facts section untick the third option to Record scholar as occupation. No scholar occupation fact will be created but the text will still be included in the Source record.
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Re: Hiding occupations

Post by Ruth_W » 24 Apr 2021 10:31

Thank-you, Lorna. That is very useful to know.

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