* Census method 1 issues

[johnhanson]

I have been using Ancestral Sources since it started and also it predecessor and always using method 1

After a few years of using TMG for the one-name study I am doing the research I have been working on and the odd dabble back at my own I have come back to doing my own

I am trying to get everything sorted in my files before the 1921 census decends next year and that means filling in all of the other censuses and also going back and adding all the cousins that I might have missed.

I have found two issues - both of which are not ground breakers but I do like consistancy
The first relates to the format in Source records
Which appears to have changed at some time and now reverted back again
What is the easiest way to sort them out - other than manually having to change them - this is just a small sample from the file

The second relates to using the census as a source to someones birth and at some time it seems to have stopped being used so some people have all the censuses list and some have none
What is the concensus of opinion these days on whether to include them on not
I can't see an option in AS7 for it
Regards
John

[tatewise]

All those alternatives are in the AS Tools > Options... and in this case the Census settings.

The Birth Facts options are centre top.

The Title Template for Media is at the bottom and for Source Titles are on the next Census settings - method 1 page.

I suspect that over the years, as each version of AS was released, those settings have accidentally been reset to defaults.

Until there is more reliable data, then citing all Census records against a Birth event is common practice.
Once you have say a Birth Certificate or Parish Baptism giving DoB then some users remove the Census citations.

The Source record Titles can be converted to a common format using the Search and Replace plugin but will probably need to use Lua Pattern mode which I can help with.

[johnhanson]

Mike
Thanks - Search and replace appears to work fine as it is
I made a copy of the database to try it and as I simply want to swap the first two words round it appears to work
The attached screen shows the settings - have I missed anything?

Comments to census as a source for birth makes sense which lets to the question

Is there a quick way to remove all the censuses for a specific year?

Regards
John

[tatewise]

RE: Search and Replace with your technique, you must repeat for every year.
If you select Lua Pattern mode you can use:
Search: (%d%d%d%d) Census that captures the four digit year preceding Census where %d is like a wildcard for a digit
Replace: Census %1 that substitutes the word Census followed by the captured year

I suggest that on the Extra Filters tab you select only Record Names/Titles ~ Source Title (SOUR.TITL)

Presumably, you are not concerned about the Folio, Page, Schedule format?

RE: Census Citations for Birth
Why do you need to "remove all the censuses for a specific year"?
Surely we are talking about removing Census Citations for specific Birth events.

[NickWalker]

Hi John

It's great to know you're still using AS after all these years . I think the default census method 1 source title has been:

{SOURCETYPE} {YEAR} {PLACE} {REF} ({OTHER})

for many years now. It may well have been different back in the days of 'Gedcom Census' (over 10 years ago).

The 'Offer to Create Birth Facts' census option has always been turned on by default so if AS hasn't been doing this then it suggests you've changed that setting. However, by default it won't ask this if the individual already has a date of birth and place of birth recorded. So I wonder if at some point you turned that on but not currently.

Birth Settings.PNG (3.87 KiB) Viewed 2583 times

The settings don't get reset when you upgrade versions but if you've reinstalled Windows or moved to another PC in that time then settings you may have changed may get lost.

[johnhanson]

Nick
Thank you for the comment and not sure what happened when but I have been an advocate of AS since it started and whenever I lecture of FH it always gets mentioned. But thanks to Mike are all now in the same format

I will also make sure that the setting are correct - been through a few different machines over the years!

Mike
Thee search replace worked brilliantly - thank you for the nudge about Lua
I will tackle the question of the Folio page and schedule at a later date
"
RE: Census Citations for Birth
Why do you need to "remove all the censuses for a specific year"?
Surely we are talking about removing Census Citations for specific Birth events."
My bad terminology and as you say are the defunct citations I want to remove
Regards and thanks again to both of you
John Hanson

[tatewise]

The only way I can think of to retrospectively remove unwanted Birth event Census Citations is to write a Plugin.
But what are the criteria for approving that removal?
A citation of a Birth Certificate, a GRO Birth Index, a Baptism PR, or even a Death Certificate giving DoB?

Usually, they would be removed by hand when the more reliable citation is added.
Sorry, but there is no simple answer, other than manually remove them whenever you spot them.

[johnhanson]

Mike
Thanks - Had a feeling that was going to be the answer
Regards
John