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Post by jsphillips » 27 Dec 2017 12:21

Very strange !,
J S Broodbank born Croydon 1949
Mother Broodbank
Out of wedlock ... father not acknowledged.??
But strange no death or marriage or emigration ?
Any help welcome
My wife’s family of Broodbanks came from Croydon but this unknown baby

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Post by Jane » 27 Dec 2017 14:25

Did the mother subsequently marry? If so did the child adopt the man's name?
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Post by jsphillips » 27 Dec 2017 15:24

Without getting birth certificate I do not know mothers full name

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Post by themoudie » 27 Dec 2017 23:24

I had a similar problem with the legitamate birth of a son, whom later became a "rake" of the first order, specialising in using aliases. After 30+ years of criminality and prison sentences, he appeared (!) to lead a respectable life. BUT and it is a BIG BUT, he married, had a child and was then registered on his death certificate, using one of the aliases from his criminal career! :o

His only known registered child, married, but had no children and has since died, so I am unable to verify whether the child or Mother knew that their registered surname was in fact an illegal alias.

In another branch of the family a son was born, with a known Mother and an unacknowledged Father. The Mother subsequently married 3 years after the birth of the son and the child used this first husband's surname, until his death. This was inspite of the first husband dying 8 years after the marriage and the Mother then marrying again and taking another husband's surname a further 4 years after the death of her first husband.

Was the child born out of wedlock and then adopted, before the Mother was subsequently married, either to the father or another man?

Was the child's surname registered as being the same as the Mother's on the child's birth certificate?

There is no way of clearing this "mystery" unless you obtain the childs Birth Certificate. But, be aware of other peoples sensibilities, if you go "digging"!

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Post by tatewise » 28 Dec 2017 10:26

Contrary to what was suggested earlier, a child's Surname is NOT actually registered on a UK Birth Certificate.
Only the child's Forenames are registered, along with the full names of the father and mother.
It is assumed that the child takes the father's Surname if given, or alternatively the mother's Surname.
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Post by jsphillips » 28 Dec 2017 11:18

I seem to have received 2 emails after my postings which do not appear on the forum. They are from "admin@fhug.org.uk on behalf of Family Historian User Group (FHUG) sent to you by" themoudie ".
The words I thought best not to put this on the FH website ?? I am not putting this text on here from this source
Any comments on this please ??
Who is this ??

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Post by tatewise » 28 Dec 2017 11:40

FHUG users can send you Emails via the Contact link in your postings or your Profile.

They should start with the text:
The following is an email sent to you by <username> via your account on "Family Historian User Group". If this message is spam, contains abusive or other comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at the following address:
If any other text format is used then it is probably spam using an alias Email address.
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Post by ColeValleyGirl » 28 Dec 2017 13:11

If you look at the profile of themoudie, they'rve been a member for over two years and a good contributor to these boards -- including earlier in this thread. I suspect their email is being spoofed.

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Re: Broodbank

Post by jsphillips » 28 Dec 2017 14:25

Thank you all

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Post by themoudie » 28 Dec 2017 23:31

Good evening jsphillips,

There is nothing "spoof" about the private emails that you have received from me. I intentionaly sent them using the "Contact link" given in your "Profile" on this forum. I apologise if this has caused you concern and upset you or possible relatives that was not my intention.

I thought that the contents of the two messages was better to remain between you and I, rather than displayed across this forum, in case the individual named didn't wish to be identified. Hence the final sentence in my last posting to this thread on the forum at 23:24pm on 27 Dec 2017: "But, be aware of other peoples sensibilities, if you go "digging"!"

I am content for you to either continue this conversation either on the forum or via the private emails that I sent using the email link given in my FH Forum "Profile".

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Post by jsphillips » 30 Dec 2017 17:12

Dear themoudie
Thank you for your directedness.
Yes I was a little concerned
Not now thanks to your explanation
Yes I 100% agree with your thoughts on being careful about peoples feelings etc.
Please accept my apologies

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Re: Broodbank

Post by themoudie » 31 Dec 2017 00:30

Dear jsphillips,
Thank you, but there is no need to apologies, as I haven't taken umbrage! :)
I hope that you are able to disentangle the mystery that has been posed, sometimes these can be like a worm niggling at the back of your mind. ;)
Good health for 2018.
My regards, Bill

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