* Coroner/Inquest

[ThorpeDave]

Sadly I have come to that point in my life when I have to deal with the death of a relative.

On this particular occasion, it is not a simple death registration as the Coroner has become involved and an inquest will be heard (it is not clear if this will be a full inquest or a rubber stamp job)

As there will be a lot of paperwork involved I thought I would take the opportunity to ensure that I record the detail, at every stage, within FH and use the experience gained to expand other records I have where I know that inquest here heard.

While I could quite simply add document to the Death Fact, I thought it would be better to try and record things with a high degree of detail seeing I had the opportunity

Having taken a look at "facts" within FH, I quickly realised that I am probably going to have to create a number of custom fact - which fills me with dread! - and was wondering if someone has already gone through a similar process and has a set of custom facts that could be made available?

The things I would like to record are

Date referred to Coroner
Date Inquest opened
Date inquest adjurned
Date Inquest closed
Inquest verdict and date
Interim Death Certificate issued - Permission to bury/cremate granted Date (not sure if this is a different doccument)
Full Death certificate issued - already covered

and possibly other I am currently unaware of!

It is probable that the funeral & burial/cremation might actually take place before a final verdict is reached and full death certificate is issued.

Any guidance/advice would be appreciated

Regards

Dave

[trevorrix]

Assuming that you will have documents that include all of the detail, I would simply link images of those documents into Family Historian. When you wish to read some of that detail, use the Open In Editor/Player in FH to view the relevant image. No need to spend lots of time transcribing text into FH.

There are free tools available on the internet such as "JPG To PDF" that will convert several jpg images into one long pdf, so you would only have one file to open/view.

[tatewise]

I have not had to deal with that specific scenario, but my advice is not to get embroiled in too much detail at the fact level.
Unfortunately there is not an Inquest Fact Set in the FHUG fhugdownloads:index|> Downloads and Links.

I would suggest you have just one custom Inquest Event/Attribute.
The advantage of an Attribute is it offers an extra {value} field, just like the Occupation and Education attributes.

The fact Date would identify the duration of the whole inquest process using the From X to Y period format.
The fact would Cite one or more Source records where the full details should be recorded.
Attached Media can be JPG or PDF (or any other file type) but only image files (JPG, PNG, GIF) can appear in Reports.
Note that each Citation has an Entry Date for interim milestones.
If you add Fact Witness Roles such as Coroner, they can have their own Source Citations and Entry Dates.
So for instance that is where to record the Date referred to Coroner.

[ThorpeDave]

Hi Trevor

Assuming that you will have documents that include all of the detail, I would simply link images of those documents into Family Historian. When you wish to read some of that detail, use the Open In Editor/Player in FH to view the relevant image. No need to spend lots of time transcribing text into FH.

That is certainly the easy solution! but because I have a lot of detail my OCD says find a way to record it! Everyone tells me, correctly, to get a much evidence to prove a fact, and, in this particular situation I will have everything

Regards

Dave

[ThorpeDave]

Hi Mike

I have not had to deal with that specific scenario, but my advice is not to get embroiled in too much detail at the fact level.
Unfortunately there is not an Inquest Fact Set in the FHUG fhugdownloads:index|> Downloads and Links.

Perhaps a "feature request" for a future release? or a new template for AS ? It is very likely that we all have got situations where someone in our past has had an inquest on their death and I know that it is not easy to get the full information. I have several known situations but on one, I have a full transcript from The Times which covered a serious mining accident in the 1860s

I would suggest you have just one custom Inquest Event/Attribute.
The advantage of an Attribute is it offers an extra {value} field, just like the Occupation and Education attributes.

That makes sense - spends the afternoon reading how to do this! not forgetting to export my custom facts to a file.

I do however think it would be a nice and welcome feature request to have an "inquest fact"

Regards

Dave

[tatewise]

Hi Dave,
Regarding FH & AS feature requests, it is important to understand that they are both highly conformant to the GEDCOM specification, which does not specify an Inquest fact. Users of other products that have predefined built-in custom GEDCOM facts, experience difficulties when migrating from product to product, due to the custom facts, because it has not been made clear which facts are standard and which are custom.

Remember also that we are the FHUG, not the FH program developer, so cannot directly affect future releases.

Any FHUG user can compose an Inquest Fact Set with Witness Roles and Sentence Templates to populate the FHUG Downloads for the benefit of all.

See how_to:narrative_report_fact_sentence_templates|> Narrative Report Fact Sentence Templates and its links to related topics.