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Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by Shiriki » 22 Jan 2017 18:35

Hi again

Thought I would re-visit the expressions I have used to date to display icons on a number of my diagrams and share the information……
After a bit of trial and error and building upon the advice and guidance obtained from my previous postings entitled:

Diagram Icon and Expression Problem (14395)
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Icons, Expressions Diagrams (14373)

I have compiled some additional expressions and modified a number of my existing to see if I could achieve what I wanted. To that end I have come away from using CUR~FAMS>CENS and reverted to expressions using INDI.FAMS and INDI.FAMS[2] with different backgrounds to icons to differentiate between 1st and 2nd marriages and to try and show single and couple relationships on the various census I have discovered to date.
A typical census set for (say) 1851 would appear thus with a different background to the census icon in each case:

=IsTrue(%INDI.CENS[year=1851].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census 1851")
=IsTrue(%INDI.FAMS>CENS[year=1851].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census 1851")
=IsTrue(%INDI.FAMS[2]>CENS[year=1851].SOUR>_TYPE% = "Census 1851")


A marriage set appears thus:

=IsTrue((%INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR>_TYPE% = "Marriage Certificate (GRO Certified Copy)") and Exists(%INDI.FAMS>MARR.SOUR>OBJE>%))
=IsTrue((%INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR.SOUR>_TYPE% = "Marriage Certificate (GRO Certified Copy)") and Exists(%INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR.SOUR>OBJE>%))


It was complicated by my having a number of marriage types such as Original; GRO Certified Copy; Photocopy etc. which necessitated repeating the expressions numerous times for the various types, but I think I have achieved what I was looking for.
Many thanks to Mike Tate (Tatewise) in steering me the right direction in my efforts to get to grips with expressions.....although I am still a relative novice.
All I need now is to find a person who has a third marriage and it will require additional expression sets with associated icons to address that……I wonder if there is a limit to the number of expressions one can have active at any one time???

However, I can now display the following icons:

Birth; Baptism; Marriage (1st and 2nd); Death; Burial; Cremation.

In addition I can display the Census Icons 1841 through to 1911 and by using different coloured backgrounds to icons show whether the individual concerned was listed as single or with a partner.

The image below shows John Funnell with the following icons:

Birth, Marriage......Dark Green indicating with a second partner…..(although he was never married to the 1st); Death then Burial. The census icons for 1871 and 1881 (white background) indicate he appeared single on the census (In this case prior to his marriage) and the 1891; 1901 and 1911 icons indicate he appeared on those censuses but with a partner (In this case his 2nd as shown by the dark orange background). Emma's Marriage icon is shown with a light green background indicating that this marriage is to a 1st partner.
John Funnell (Icons).jpg
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The next image for Richard Charles Kirk ,Harriet Swan and Sarah Humphries successfully shows the following icons for Richard:

Birth ; Marriage (to 1st partner); Marriage (to 2nd partner); Death and Burial. The 1841; 1851 and 1861 icons refer to when he was with Harriet (yellow background icons) and the 1871 and 1881 when he was with Sarah (dark orange background). The yellow census icons for both Harriet and Sarah indicate appearing on the census with their 1st partner (one and only in both cases).
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Have checked the rest of my diagrams and everything appears to be working as expected so far......(Phew!)

The image below shows my first effort to compile a legend (as a jpg image) which is to be inserted onto diagrams then saved as a chart to explain the meanings of the icons I have used:
FH Chart Legend-amended.jpg
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Hopefully this may be of interest and inspire fellow users.....
Might still have a tinker with icons just in case a saved chart with them when printed in black and white is found to be wanting.....also perhaps an icon for the 1939 Register......

Ho Hum

Best regards to all

Shiriki

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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by tatewise » 22 Jan 2017 19:26

Shiriki, that is excellent feedback that I am sure will be useful to others.

The following observations struck me.
Why is 1st Marr icon background light green whilst 1st M Cens icon background is yellow?
Why is 2nd Marr icon background dark green whilst 2nd M Cens icon background is orange?
Would it be more colour co-ordinated if the 1st M Cens icons were light green and the 2nd M Cens icons were dark green so they matched their associated Marr icons?
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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by Shiriki » 22 Jan 2017 22:19

Hi Tatewise

In my enthusiasm to get the icons to display as I wanted, I chose a contrasting colour for the census icons....... it didn't occur to me to colour co-ordinate the census backgrounds with the respective marriage to make a similar grouping.......
That's given me something to think about....
Perhaps I should experiment with your idea ...........I will have to consider re-editing (say) the 1841 census groups to see what they look like......and take into account possible 3rd partnerships with yet another different shade of green (or should that be 50 shades of green :D )

As always you provide good advice for the way forward, many thanks....

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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by tatewise » 22 Jan 2017 22:35

Alternatively, go the other way and use the yellow background for 1st Marr icon, the orange background for 2nd Marr icon, and that offers red for 3rd Marr icon, and purple thereafter. Then for now you only have two icons to change!
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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by Shiriki » 23 Jan 2017 11:39

Have amended sufficient icons (Census) to show how they now appear below individuals with the colour coordinated approach.
Thought I would post what they look like at present......I quite like them. Now need to complete the remaining ones and amend my Legend panel accordingly.
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I intend to keep the original icons so that I can have a choice as it is not too onerous to switch between icons......the time consuming bit is modifying them in the first place.

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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by tatewise » 23 Jan 2017 12:19

Did you see my suggestion about using yellow for 1st Marr icon, orange for 2nd Marr icon, red for 3rd Marr icon, and purple thereafter?
Then you do NOT have to alter all those Census icons!
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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by Shiriki » 23 Jan 2017 18:42

Yes, I did see your reply and it is a good idea.
My intention in the first instance is to have a set of icons colour coordinated with the light green Marriage icon as a first step.
However, as I assist as a volunteer at my local Family History Society and a number of members are commencing using Family Historian or have expressed the desire to see what it can do it is probably good to have a set of Marriage icons Yellow, Orange, Red as you suggested so that I can chop and change dependant upon how they perceive the colours, so that as they progress and perhaps want to use expressions I can let them have a set of icons of their liking for their own use.
I seem to be the one pioneering the way with FH and have been asked to give help to members who wish to use it, by means of demonstrations and what we call workshops (including PowerPoint presentations) which to date has gone down extremely well)......perhaps I should ask for a commission from Calico Pie as a number of members have purchased FH as a result. :D

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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by rodit » 27 Apr 2017 06:10

I have been looking at these expressions for some time as they appear to fit in with the way I set up my diagrams.
I like the way the various census icons are coloured to show single or married.
However, at the risk of appearing completely dumb, where does INDI.FAMS>CENS come from? I have found it as a Data Reference but as I use AS for all my census inputs (plus the rest), I only have INDI.CENS. There is no family event.
I have looked through the KB but cannot find anything.
What have I missed.
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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by Jane » 27 Apr 2017 07:15

The FAM.CENS is the Family Census, it's a valid tag, but not often used, most people have a Census event for each person separately as it avoids problems with deciding who the Family Census covers. If you use AS by default it only creates Individual Census entries.
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Post by tatewise » 27 Apr 2017 10:32

If you do not use FAM.CENS events, then you can safely omit the =IsTrue(%INDI.FAMS>CENS...) expressions, but it does no harm to retain them.

See also how_to:recording_census_records|> Recording from a Census Record.
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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by rodit » 28 Apr 2017 02:21

Jane & Mike
Thanks for your replies. I was aware that FAM.CENS was the Family Census, and just wondered how it was generated.
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Post by tatewise » 28 Apr 2017 09:32

You can add it via the Add Fact > More Facts option in the Facts tab, where Census (family) is listed just under Census, but you will note it has a red bullet for a Family Event. It can also often get imported from other products.
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Re: Expressions and Icons Again - Success?

Post by Shiriki » 01 May 2017 06:43

Hi Rodit

Just in case you missed it, have a look at another of my postings entitled Expressions for Diagram Icons......where I have endeavoured to arrange icons in a chronological order....

In the past few days have just realised that one of my ancestors was born just before the 1891 census and Baptised in 1892 so have just compiled a further set of expressions to add to my ever growing list to ensure the Baptism icon is correctly sorted in a similar fashion with respect to the census icons. I will upload these additional expressions in a separate posting.

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