Hi, I've added a second spouse for my mother. I now want to enter the first wife (of my mothers second spouse) and family to my tree. Whilst they are not strictly related I'm trying to show the relationships which existed. I can enter the data, as first wife of my stepfather but nothing shows in the tree. I doing something wrong but can't figure out what. Any help gratefully received.
Al
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AdrianBruce
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I suspect you said it yourself - 'they are not strictly related'. This isn't a matter of protocol or anything silly - it's a question of what sort of diagram you've asked for.
I've got a similar set-up - my 4G GM had 2 husbands. If I ask for a Descendants Diagram based on her, it shows her 2 spouses, plus any descendants of her 2 marriages. As the 1st wife of her second husband isn't GM's descendant (or a spouse who could give her descendants), she doesn't appear. Even an 'All Relatives' diagram won't show Wife1 of Husband2 as she isn't a relative by blood or directly by marriage.
You could have a look at an article in the Knowledge Base on 'View Both Spouses Ancestors' http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id ... _ancestors
Essentially, in the 1st method, you select your mother, hold down the Ctrl key, select her 2nd spouse and play around with the diagram types until you find something that looks useful. I found a All Relatives diagram seemed to work, though it only gave All Relatives of the 2 selected people and descendants of the 1st spouse - because they are descendants of her.
The way I usually do it, is to get one tree shown in the diagram, then do menu option Diagram/Inset Into Diagram, which allows you to insert a new tree entirely, so you have one diagram with two trees. You'll see ribbons connecting the common people (err - that's people common to both trees, I mean!).
Essentially you need to remember that not everything you can envisage can be easily programmed - usually because you think of the simple case but the software has to cope with all possibilities, and sometimes it just doesn't work for all possibilities.
I've got a similar set-up - my 4G GM had 2 husbands. If I ask for a Descendants Diagram based on her, it shows her 2 spouses, plus any descendants of her 2 marriages. As the 1st wife of her second husband isn't GM's descendant (or a spouse who could give her descendants), she doesn't appear. Even an 'All Relatives' diagram won't show Wife1 of Husband2 as she isn't a relative by blood or directly by marriage.
You could have a look at an article in the Knowledge Base on 'View Both Spouses Ancestors' http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id ... _ancestors
Essentially, in the 1st method, you select your mother, hold down the Ctrl key, select her 2nd spouse and play around with the diagram types until you find something that looks useful. I found a All Relatives diagram seemed to work, though it only gave All Relatives of the 2 selected people and descendants of the 1st spouse - because they are descendants of her.
The way I usually do it, is to get one tree shown in the diagram, then do menu option Diagram/Inset Into Diagram, which allows you to insert a new tree entirely, so you have one diagram with two trees. You'll see ribbons connecting the common people (err - that's people common to both trees, I mean!).
Essentially you need to remember that not everything you can envisage can be easily programmed - usually because you think of the simple case but the software has to cope with all possibilities, and sometimes it just doesn't work for all possibilities.
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Wow, brilliant answer to my question. I'll give it a go over the next few days and let you know how I get on.
Thanks Al
Thanks Al
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To paraphrase what Adrian has said, the individuals that appear in your tree diagram depend on what type of Diagram you choose, and which person or couple you choose as the root.
Beware that an All Relatives Diagram does not necessarily show all relatives, but only blood relatives and their immediate spouses.
Many new users expect to be able to see all relatives displayed, however distant, whether blood relatives or related by marriage, but in the general case this is simply not feasible in a single tree.
There is a Wish List item Ref 501 Entire Pool Diagram that requests all relatives, however distant, to be displayed in one Diagram.
However, it is recognised that this may need several sub-trees to display everyone, with ribbons linking common relatives between trees.
Beware that an All Relatives Diagram does not necessarily show all relatives, but only blood relatives and their immediate spouses.
Many new users expect to be able to see all relatives displayed, however distant, whether blood relatives or related by marriage, but in the general case this is simply not feasible in a single tree.
There is a Wish List item Ref 501 Entire Pool Diagram that requests all relatives, however distant, to be displayed in one Diagram.
However, it is recognised that this may need several sub-trees to display everyone, with ribbons linking common relatives between trees.