* Quick Child/Family Snapshot

[tatewise]

Try attachment Quick Family Facts Version 0.9.4 Date 19 Dec 2016.
[Attachment deleted as now in Plugin Store.]

This is likely to be very close to the Plugin Store published version in the new year.

It has the pane Headings in a slightly larger bold font and centralised, but without underline.

The Root Person Name is always just underlined, excluding the prefix = in Partners pane.
The Root ... style options at bottom do work, but are NOT sticky, and will vanish when published, unless there is an outcry.

The Root Person Name always has the Root Parents colour.
The Root ... colour options at bottom do work, but are NOT sticky, and will vanish when published, unless there is an outcry.

The + and - buttons on left will never make a row so small that the buttons disappear.
It should be possible to take a tidy screenshot of the panes without any buttons or scrollbars included.

Is the range of Font Size from 4 to 20 point sufficient?

Have I missed anything that anyone requested?

BTW:
I did look at draggable dividers between rows, but although quite easy for 2 rows, it got tricky for 3 rows plus row of options.
Also I think that IUP feature only works with FH V6 and not FH V5, which adds another complication.

[arthurk]

I'm very happy with this as a more or less final version.

Is the range of Font Size from 4 to 20 point sufficient?

Font Size 6 to 12 point would suit me, but if it's no trouble to have a wider range, you might as well stick with 4 to 20.

Thanks again for all you've done on this.

[Valkrider]

Mike

I like the changes and am happy with them.

It may be a Wine issue but just hovering the mouse pointer over the font size up or down icons causes the size to change without clicking and goes right down to 4pt or up to 20pt.

[BillH]

Mike,

Looks great. Thanks for the headings changes.

Bill

[tatewise]

Colin, it may be a Wine issue, but does the attached version make any difference?
It adds a fraction of a second pause before enabling the spin up/down arrows.
(It still has the same Version & Date)
[Attachment deleted as now in Plugin Store.]

[Valkrider]

Mike

It is better but not 100% as long as it doesn't affect the Windows users then this is certainly a better bet.

[E Wilcock]

I downloaded the latest as I use Windows 7.

The window that opened did not show all the children data even for a family of 4 children without scrolling or enlarging the window.

The version that I like mimics TMG and gives me the info I need about is called Quick Family Snapshot (this may be my naming as I have now quite a collection of these files) and I downloaded it on 9 December 2016.

However, I then returned to the latest version and see what a wonderful range of choices it gives about what is displayed and that something I may have done with the older version in the interim, has resized the new one so it is very neat and pretty. So one wouldnt need the early draft version.

I then opened the FH Sample project where there is a third generation because grandparents are known and once again, using the most recent version, even selecting Brief MBD events, I would need to scroll down to see all the children and their marriage partners.

I feel really stupid as something I am doing as user must be making all the difference between getting the info I need from the latest version and not.

[tatewise]

The latest versions have what are known as 'sticky' settings, which is quite common with Plugins.
The settings chosen by the BMD Events drop-list, the Font Size, and the size & positon of the Popup Window are remembered, but separately for each Project.
So the first time the Plugin is used in any Project you get a relatively small default Popup Window, but once adjusted those new settings will be retained for that Project.

It is a bit tricky to choose a Popup Window size that is appropriate for all the variants of Windows (XP, Vista, 7, 8.1, 10), and your monitor display resolution, and the details in each displayed pane. However, I hope to improve that before publishing the final version.

It is also possible to make the same settings 'sticky' for all Projects, but that is not the norm for most Plugins.

[E Wilcock]

Thank you, I now understand how it behaved and what was going on.

And I also apologise for wrongly thinking I needed to cling onto an earlier version - tho it demonstrates how I have come to depend on the things you have done to help me.

[arthurk]

Colin, it may be a Wine issue, but does the attached version make any difference?
It adds a fraction of a second pause before enabling the spin up/down arrows.
(It still has the same Version & Date)

It is better but not 100% as long as it doesn't affect the Windows users then this is certainly a better bet.

In Windows 7 I'm not seeing anything happen when I just hover over the font size (and I didn't with the earlier version either), but I've just tried this latest version. Now, clicking an arrow changes the font instantly; at the same time the number indicating the size goes grey, then it changes to the new size maybe half a second later. Is this as expected?

[tatewise]

Try attachment Quick Family Facts Version 0.9.5 Date 20 Dec 2016.
[Attachment deleted as now in Plugin Store.]

Yes arthurk, you are correct about the fraction of a second pause.
After some experiments on FH V5 in XP, I found the same problem with the Font Size spin buttons.
So I have changed to a slider instead, that seems to be better behaved.

The initial Popup Window size in a new Project is now geared to the screen size ~ 75% width x 50% height.

I have also hidden two of the buttons as proposed for the published version.

[Valkrider]

Mike

That is fine on Wine too. A much better option.

Aesthetically you may want to increase the space between the font size and the slider as the second digit of the font size is partially hidden behind the slider.

[arthurk]

That is fine on Wine too. A much better option.

Aesthetically you may want to increase the space between the font size and the slider as the second digit of the font size is partially hidden behind the slider.

Thumbs up from me, too. However, unless you've changed the file in the 10 minutes between Colin writing this and me downloading it and testing it just now, the space issue he mentions might be a Wine issue. All looks fine in Windows 7.

[PeterR]

Thanks for latest version, Mike. It would be even better if the colour black (which is used for spouses in most panes) could be avoided for half-siblings, as illustrated.

[tatewise]

PeterR, what do you suggest and why?
What if either parent has even more partners (with children) than just those in your example?
i.e. multiple step-parents and more step-siblings.

[PeterR]

These two examples have multiple spouses for the Father, with two the same colour (black). Thus the colour does not show which (black-coloured) spouse is the mother of the Root's (black-coloured) half-sibling(s). In one case the marriage and birth dates obviously help. If it is difficult to use more than two colours (brown and black) in the Parent and Sibling panes, then please don't bother. But the use of more colours elsewhere is helpful, and I understand the reluctance to use red or blue anywhere.

[tatewise]

Do you mean like Quick Family Facts Version 0.9.6 Date 21 Dec 2016?
[Attachment deleted as now in Plugin Store.]

This adds colours for families where both Parents & Children appear anywhere in the panes.

This version has rearranged the Font Point slider that should display better.

I also noticed that some half-Siblings were being omitted where the Mother married more than once and had children by a step-Father of the Root Person.

[PeterR]

Thank you Mike, that's exactly what I was hoping for.

I find that, once I've clicked on the slider, I can use the mouse wheel to change font size, which is very handy.

[Valkrider]

Display is fine in Wine too. I think you might have cracked it just in time for Christmas Mike

[tatewise]

Yes, once the Font slider is selected, the mouse wheel, arrow keys, and Page Up/Down keys all control the slider, but sometimes in the opposite direction to what you might expect. In fact you do not even have to select the slider, but just hover the cursor over it for the mouse wheel to work. Similarly, those controls will change the BMD Event choice.

I plan to only allow the BMD Event drop-list, the Font slider, and Close button to have focus.
Thus by tapping the Tab key focus will move around those three controls.
e.g. To adjust the slider, tap Tab until it is selected, and then click left/right arrows keys.

Also usually just tapping Enter or Return key will close window.

[PeterR]

Currently the Esc key also closes the window.

[tatewise]

Here is a Christmas bonus Quick Family Facts Version 0.9.7 Date 24 Dec 2016.
[Attachment deleted as now in Plugin Store.]

This has the following features, some of which are new :-

• The Separation event from the Ancestry/FTM Extended Set is added to the Marriage & Divorce set.
• Click on any Individual's Name in any details Pane to select a new Root Person.
• Popup Tooltips added to all the controls when you hover the cursor over them.
• Initial focus is Font Point slider so the Home, End, Page Up/Down & Arrow keys work without selecting slider,
  but sometimes in the opposite direction to what you might expect.
• Just hover cursor over BMD Events droplist or Font Point slider for mouse scroll wheel to work.
• Just hover cursor over any text pane and mouse scroll wheel will scroll vertical scroll-bar up and down.
• Hold down Ctrl key while scrolling in a text pane and the text font size is adjusted in just that pane,
  but over a slightly different set of point sizes than via the slider control.
• The Esc and Return and Enter keys will all close the Family Facts window.
• The initial & minimum size of the window have better settings so for example the controls never vanish.

[arthurk]

Here is a Christmas bonus Quick Family Facts Version 0.9.7 Date 24 Dec 2016.

Something else to keep me from whatever else I should be doing

Mostly working well, and nice new features, but I noticed the following in Windows 7:

[*] Initial focus is Font Point slider so the Home, End, Page Up/Down & Arrow keys work without selecting slider.

For me, Page Up and Mouse Scroll Up are decreasing the font size, and the Down controls are increasing it. Would it be more logical the other way round? (I'm not sure if this is new with this version - I've been using the slider up to now.)

[*] Just hover cursor over BMD Events droplist or Font Point slider for mouse scroll wheel to work.

I can't change focus without clicking on the relevant item, but once I've done that the mouse scroll works anywhere in the popup window. This behaviour isn't a problem to me, but it's not quite the way you've described it here.

Thanks again for this - and don't feel you need to rush to update on my account, as I won't be doing much with FH for the next few days.

Arthur

[tatewise]

Yes, I said in an earlier posting that the slider keys are "sometimes in the opposite direction to what you might expect", but that seems to be the only way the IUP package works.

Maybe the hovering mouse scroll behaviour depends on the version of Windows. I am using Windows 10.

When you say the mouse scroll works anywhere in the popup window, that should mean it scrolls the pane (vertical scroll-bar) when over any pane, and adjusts the BMD Events dropdown and Font Point slider when over them.

I've just discovered another feature, where holding down the Ctrl key while mouse scrolling in a text pane, adjusts the text font size in just that pane.

I have updated the advice in the Version 0.9.7 posting.

[arthurk]

Yes, I said in an earlier posting that the slider keys are "sometimes in the opposite direction to what you might expect", but that seems to be the only way the IUP package works.

I missed that comment, so this took me by surprise a bit.

Maybe the hovering mouse scroll behaviour depends on the version of Windows. I am using Windows 10.

When you say the mouse scroll works anywhere in the popup window, that should mean it scrolls the pane (vertical scroll-bar) when over any pane, and adjusts the BMD Events dropdown and Font Point slider when over them.

As I said, I'm on Windows 7, and I have to specifically click on something to give it focus, rather than just hovering. To get a pane to scroll I have to click in it first.

I've just discovered another feature, where holding down the Ctrl key while mouse scrolling in a text pane, adjusts the text font size in just that pane.

That's not happening for me: if I hold down Ctrl, that inhibits the font size scrolling altogether.

But I've got another for you: if I click in a pane on the same line as a name (both when giving the pane focus and when it already has it), it's as though I clicked on the name itself and they then become the Root. So selecting a pane needs great care and precision - not my usual slapdash click. If this can't be avoided, then I'd much prefer clicky names to be switched off.

I don't know if these differing behaviours are because we have different versions of Windows, or because of some settings I've made to mine - though I can't just now think what they might be.

With the time of year, I don't expect to be able to do much more in the way of testing/exploring now, so I'm happy to leave you to ponder this and hopefully I'll be able to take it up again in a few days.

Arthur