* Multiple Source Images

[janefrances]

I've been happily entering sources for the wills that I have and so far, they have only been one page images. Until now that is, I have a will that spans over four pages. I have created the source and attached the images as page one, two, etc. I don't like the way I have to click on each page hoping someone has a better idea?
Thanks

[tatewise]

I presume you want all four to appear in one .jpg image file.

If so, then use a photo/image editor and combine them together.
Probably best to put one page in each corner, rather than all four one under each other or side by side.
fhugdownloads:contents:irfanview|> Utility ~ IrfanView is a good free tool that would work and has Paste Special > to Left/Right/Bottom/Top commands that make it easy.

[BobWard]

If you use photo-editing software to compress all 4 images onto one page, then each image will be much smaller, and more difficult to read, if you do a paper copy print.

I encounter multiple images for an individual source document quite frequently and I always just place one image on each page so that when I print my Individual Summary Reports (either as an electronic pdf file or as paper printout) each image will occupy an entire page and be very easy to read.

[tatewise]

Bob makes a good point, but you can easily have both modes.

You can link the combined image and the four separate pages to the Source record.
Then change the option on just the combined image to Exclude from Reports.
Now you have a single clickable combined image that is excluded from Reports, but the four more readable individual pages will still be included in Reports.

[janefrances]

Many thanks, I'm sorry but I don't understand. The four document pages is the Will, and these four pages are linked to one source. how do I put one page in each corner or side by side?

I've downloaded the IrfanView but it looks a bit difficult!

[tatewise]

This is how you do it with IrfanView:

1. Open the .jpg image you want in top left corner in IrfanView.
2. Use the Edit > Copy command and then close IrfanView.
3. Open the .jpg image you want in top right corner in IrfanView.
4. Use the Edit > Paste Special (add on side) > to Left command and keep IrfanView open.
   (Should now have the top two pages side by side.)
5. Open the .jpg image you want in bottom left corner in another copy of IrfanView.
6. Use the Edit > Copy command and then close IrfanView.
7. Open the .jpg image you want in bottom right corner in IrfanView.
8. Use the Edit > Paste Special (add on side) > to Left command and keep IrfanView open.
   (Should now have the bottom two pages side by side.)
9. Use the Edit > Copy command and then close IrfanView.
10. Use the Edit > Paste Special (add on side) > to Bottom command in IrfanView from step 4.
    (Should now have one page in each corner.)
11. Use File > Save (original folder) and give it a suitable name, and you are finished.

[trevorrix]

I would use the free utility JPG To PDF to combine the four JPGs into one PDF.

Trevor Rix

[janefrances]

Trevor, Yes I did consider PDF files, and it would be a lot easier for me as my scanner software will convert JPEGs to PDF documents but i'm not sure if FH will support them.

Thanks Mike, I've been playing around with IrfanView this evening and getting a bit stuck when I come to the close IrfanView instruction, I assume I go to the File tab and Exit. I seem to get the two pages side by side ok but then it all goes wrong I shall have another go tomorrow.

Many thanks

[trevorrix]

Yes, Family Historian does support PDF source files. I use JPG To PDF frequently to do exactly what you want to achieve with multiple paged wills.

[tatewise]

But you cannot include PDF files in Reports or Diagrams.

Yes, to close IrfanView use File > Exit or click the red X top right.

Once you have the first two pages side by side DO NOT CLOSE IrfanView.

Steps 5. to 9. need a new copy of IrfanView to be opened. Do not use the copy you left open at step 4.

Then steps 10. & 11. return to that first copy.

It is just the same as you can have two copies of FH or Word open at the same time.

[trevorrix]

An alternative is to use IrfanView > Image menu > Create Panorama image...

[tatewise]

Yes, if you want all 4 side by side horizontally, or all 4 one under the other vertically, but to arrange as 4 in a square it is nearly as tricky as using Paste Special.

[janefrances]

After having a little go with the various options I think I prefer to use PDF. I tried IrfanView >Image Menu>Create Panorama and this turned out quite well, although in the media source I found I did have to zoom it up to it's maximum whereas using the PDF was so much clearer and I can't think why I would want to include the will in diagrams so am sticking with that.

Many thanks for taking the trouble to guide me though the various alternatives.
Jane

[victor]

Following comments here I decided to combine 10 pages into one. Each page was about half an A4 size. In other words 5 x A4 size pages.
I added them below each other and they all worked splendidly.
I have Corel Paint shop Pro 9. I have been using this for years and had just upgraded it to the latest version. It would have worked on previous versions.

I will be adding this string to my FH under my sons name as it was his school reports

Victor

[BobWard]

I can't think why I would want to include the will in diagrams so am sticking with that.
Jane

Remember that Mike pointed out that you cannot include a pdf file in Reports either. However, if you do not plan to ever publish Reports, then the pdf file should not be an issue for you.

[janefrances]

I haven't as yet done any reports let alone publish them!

[tatewise]

Jane, are you saying you have had FH since 2004 and never produced a Report?

If you ever anticipate doing so, then consider carefully what format of Media you choose to use.
Only image files (.jpg, .png, .gif) can appear in Reports, whereas PDF and Word .doc files cannot.

So in this example case, certainly have a composite PDF file of all four pages, but also keep the four separate .jpg files for including in Reports.

[janefrances]

Well no not really, the only reports I've done is the individual summary and the family group sheet!
I will probably try and use JPEGs for most of my documents if at all possible.

[trevorrix]

I have been using FH since 2002 and do not use reports or anything in the Publish menu.

[jimlad68]

Bit late to reply, but the other advantage of a pdf file is that you can OCR it, and have any available text underneath the image which can then be searched. We can only hope that in future FH will support pdf in the same way it does jpg etc.

[tatewise]

We have had this discussion before, and it is not obvious how FH can support multi-page PDF documents.
How would they be embedded into the Focus Window or Reports or Diagrams in the way JPG are?
If you are only talking about one-page PDF then they are easily converted to JPG and the OCR text added to the Text From Source field.

[jimlad68]

OK Mike, but:
- worth mentioning the upside of pdf
- there is more than FH to consider
- might be possible to create a 'large page' pdf, but not sure how FH would cope with that
- FH developers might have some future ingenious fix

[tatewise]

Sorry? What is a 'large page' PDF?

[jimlad68]

like when you send an oversize tree to a pdf file, you make your page size as big as required, then add your images accordingly, a bit like you do in word except I think pdf is more flexible in max page size

just done quick experiment, one method, probably a better one.

- Using your favourite image editor, create a large canvass
- Import images into your picture
- place them wherever you want them
- print (using for e.g. FHs PDF printer) but allocate the required custom page size (too small and you might lose detail) this can be very long or very wide, OK for viewing but might be difficult to print.
- as an extra you can then OCR with your favourite application.