* Nova PDF Printer settings

[Gowermick]

Anyone know how to stop Nova PDF printer opening the PDF file when finished?

Despite
1) ensuring printer setting for After Save Action is set to None
2} ensuring Open with default Viewer option is unticked

The printer still opens PDF viewer.
This is particularly annoying, as the FH Save PDF file As dialogue box opens at extreme top Left hand side of my wide screen, so stopping the viewer each time is getting very tiresome!
Anyone know how to change it to open Dialogue Box at Centre of screen? I assume this is a registry setting somewhere

[Little.auk]

Is the screen shown below what you are talking about? If so that is NOT the Viewer. The viewer would be Adobe Acrobat or whatever other PDF viewer you currently use.

The screen shown is the final part of the printing process - the PDF has not been created yet.

The screen lets you edit / insert the File Name for the PDF you are creating.

Click on "OK" in this box to complete the print.

[tatewise]

In the screenshot shown by Little.auk with Open PDF with default viewer unticked as shown then the PDF is NOT displayed after 'printing' for both Diagrams and Reports.

Mike, you are referring to the Family Historian PDF Properties ~ Save tab After save action which seems to have no effect.

I don't know of any way to reposition Save PDF File As dialogue box.

[Gowermick]

That’s the dialogue I’m talking about! I.e print dialogue box, NOT the PDF viewer!
Near the bottom of this dialogue box, left hand side is an option box, ‘Open PDF in default viewer’

Whenever I go to print, this option is always ticked by default, so I have to untick it every time I wish to print, to stop PDF viewer opening.

What I was asking is if there was a way to change the default setting for this option. i.e set it permanently to ‘unticked’.

No matter what I do via control Panel/Devices and printers, to change the default printer settings for this printer, this option remains stubbornly ticked every time I go to print.

[tatewise]

I have found a way to permanently untick Open PDF in default viewer for Reports but not for Diagrams.

Use File > Print Setup... select Family Historian PDF and click Properties...
On the Profiles tab select Family Historian Report Window which is what Reports use
On the Save tab set the After save action to None
Click OK and OK again.
Now for Reports, the Save Report As... > PDF File... does not Open PDF in default viewer and that survives closing and opening FH.

For Diagrams, the relevant Profile is called Family Historian Profile but it only exists temporarily when Diagrams are shown.
I suspect FH is creating that Profile with its own choice of settings when Diagrams get chosen.
If it existed permanently, like the Family Historian Report Window Profile, then its Properties could be adjusted as above.

I've tried exporting/importing Profiles but cannot get the Family Historian Profile to be retained.

I suggest you ask CP why Report and Diagram Profiles are handled differently and that the Family Historian Profile be retained permanently so its Properties can be adjusted.

[Gowermick]

Thanks Mike,
I thought it was me
I’ll bring it to CP’s attention

[Gowermick]

Martin at CP replied that they have no control over Nova PDF, and suggested that I approach Nova’s authors, which I have done, and am awaiting a response..

Martin also gave instructions on how to change the setting, and although I’d tried it unsuccessfully before, his suggestion that I change the setting in both Profiles, (FH and Default) actually worked! -Thanks again Martin

Why it didn’t work originally, I’ve no idea, but one of my problems has now been resolved.

Now just waiting for Nova authors to get back to me on the other problem - won’t hold my breath

[tatewise]

Mike, please talk me through how you changed both Profiles to get it to work.
I used File > Print Setup... for Family Historian PDF > Properties and both Profiles have Save tab After save action = None.

But when in a Diagram I use Diagram > Save Diagram As... > PDF File (.pdf)... and accept the default options the option to Open PDF with default viewer is still ticked in the Family Historian Profile.

Alternatively, using File > Print... > Family Historian PDF > OK that option is NOT ticked, because it uses the Default Profile, but the options to Use Current Page Layout versus Adjust PDF File Page Size ... into One Page are NOT offered. It actually uses the current page layout and for Diagrams larger than one page creates a multi-page PDF file, and is rarely what I need.
Are you sure this problem has now been resolved to your satisfaction?

I believe that Martin is just plain mistaken. It can only be FH that is choosing the Family Historian Profile in the first case above and has nothing to do with Nova PDF.

BTW: The two methods above also default to different filenames. The first uses the name of the Diagram shown in square brackets in the main window top border. The second always uses the Project name, so all Diagrams will overwrite each other.

[Gowermick]

Mike,
Oops - I got it wrong

I did change both profiles as Martin suggested, and I printed the chart by mistake, which is why I thought it worked.
As you infer, the problem Saving as a PDF still has the option set.

I have noticed however, that FH uses a different profile when Printing, to that used when Saving As.

When printing it uses Family Historian Report Profile, but uses Family Historian Profile when saving a PDF.

In Printer Settings, one can only see the Family Historian Report Profile, but it is the other profile that needs changing, hence our problem.

I've apologised to Martin for my misleading reply, and explained that it is the other profile that needs amending, and we cannot access it because it is hidden.

[tatewise]

To be pedantic, some of your terminology is inaccurate. You talk about printing and saving a PDF but we are not discussing printing at all, ONLY saving as PDF. Also, your Report PDF profile is slightly misnamed.
There are three methods for creating a PDF:

1. In Reports using (Report >) Save Report As... > PDF File... which uses the Family Historian Report Window profile.
2. In Diagrams using Diagram > Save Diagram As... > PDF File (.pdf)... which uses the Family Historian Profile profile.
3. In Reports or Diagrams using File > Print... with Family Historian PDF which uses the Default Profile profile.

The first and third can have the Properties customised and saved to inhibit Open PDF with default viewer but the third is rarely useful for Diagrams as mentioned earlier. The second method has the problem we are discussing because the profile is transient.

[Little.auk]

Hi guys,

I posted a reply earlier today which doesn't seem to have been uploaded, so I'll try again!

This issue is all to do with the Nova PDF driver settings not FH.

Use File > Print Setup... select Family Historian PDF and click Properties..., but rather than going to the profiles tab go to the Save tab, which is where you can set all the PDF driver defaults.

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Then click Configure Save Options as there is a bit of housekeeping action to do first.

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Here select Allow changing folder and I also recommend you select Use last folder, unless you always save to the same folder. Now click OK to save these changes and take you back to the Save tab.

Here select "None" in the After save action box - this sets the default to No Action after saving, which I think is what you were looking for.

If you now look at the Save Options box you will have the top option selected - which displays the top left hand Nova box.

If you select the second option Prompt standard Save As dialog this replaces the Nova box with the familiar Windows File Explorer save screen where you can rename files and select the save to folder.

I have tried FH Reports, Diagrams and Queries and all seem to work.

[Gowermick]

Little .auk,
Sorry, I wasn't ignoring your answer, but it didn't address my problem, because you were modifying the wrong profile!

When using Diagram>Save as PDF, the printer uses the Family Historian Profile (Private Profile), NOT the Default profile.
The Family Historian Profile (Private Profile) is NOT accessible via printer settings, so cannot be changed.

Your profile works for creating a PDF via Printing a chart as a PDF, but not when Saving a chart as a PDF.

To be honest, in hindsight, one could create a PDF via the Print option, but knowing no differnt, I tried to use the Save as option.
To my mind they should have identical outcomes, but they don't, hence my complaint!

[tatewise]

Little.auk, please review the three methods in my recent posting.
Your suggestion only affects the last of the three for the Default Profile, and has no effect on the other two.
Following your suggestion, but with the Family Historian Report Window profile does also work for Reports.
That was discussed by Mike and me last Friday.

The problem is with Diagrams. Your solution cannot be applied to the Family Historian Profile profile as it is 'hidden'.
The File > Print... method does NOT work for multi-page Diagrams that are required in a single PDF page, as I explained earlier, because the options to Use Current Page Layout versus Adjust PDF File Page Size ... into One Page are NOT offered.

[Gowermick]

Had a reply back from Martin at CP

He has logged this problem, and it will be passed to developers for evaluation