Family Historian User Group

Hi,

having happily re-upgraded to V5 once again, I find that there is another detail that does not work as before.

I used to define specific lines for up to four or five marriages in the 'Family Member Main Item' section, and label them as 'Show if not empty'.

Now there does not seem to be any more difference between 'Show if not empty' and 'Show even if empty' - in both cases, the lines are shown even if that person does not have a marriage entry at all.

As this is sort of a nuisance (and I do NOT want to re-downgrade to V4 once again, as I did when the first bug appeared), can anybody confirm that this really is a bug?

Sabine


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Can you post the whole expression line text, it looks as if you don't have any conditioning on the 'with' brackets etc.

If you add ifexists functions to those I suspect this will make the line blank at the moment it contains with, = and (

For the second marriage, for example, the line looks like this:

with %INDI.~SPOU[2]>NAME[1]% (=LifeDates2(%INDI.~SPOU[2]>%)), %INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR[1].DATE:COMPACT%, %INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR[1].PLAC%

It worked until V4, without any ifexists functions.

Sabine

... and the printout then should look like this:

with Anna Maria HEIN (1718-1802), 3 Feb 1739, Eppelborn, D-66571

Sabine

I have just put that code into V4 and it is working the same on V4 as it is on V5, eg showing with ( -

If you use this it will work

As a matter of interest, are you using the same Custom Report in V5 as you did in V4, or have you re-entered the Expression into V5 from memory?

Interestingly, your Expression works OK in FH V3.0.1.

Sorry, I was out of town for most of the week. Thank you for the suggestions!

I think I re-entered the code from memory.

LifeDates2 doesn't work in this context, but LifeDates does.

For the second marriage, the code now looks like this:
=combinetext('with ',%INDI.~SPOU[2]>NAME[1]%,' ','') =combinetext('(',LifeDates(%INDI.~SPOU[2]>%),') ','') =combinetext('[IRN ',RecordId(%INDI.~SPOU[2]>%),']','') =combinetext(', ',%INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR[1].DATE:COMPACT%,'',''), =combinetext('',%INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR[1].PLAC%,'','')

Sort of clumsy, but it works; Jane, I think I made some mistakes entering your version, so I tried this one, and I was content having it working ... The marriages are shown only when there really are marriages - which is what I wanted.

I had another funny effect in the Family Group Sheet. The 'record' heading went like this:
%FAM.HUSB[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME%, %FAM.HUSB[1]>NAME[1]:GIVEN_ALL%n%FAM.WIFE[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME%, %FAM.WIFE[1]>NAME[1]:GIVEN_ALL%n[=RecordID(%FAM%)]

, resulting in as the first lines of the report:
DOE, John
MILLER, Elsie
[FRN 12345]

Now the funny effect was that the last ] always disappeared when I closed the program and re-opened it; the code in the 'record' heading always ended with the ), i.e. the last letter was missing. I also tried other variations, like putting the FRN in without the brackets, but then even the FRN itself disappeared.

I don't know why, and it doesn't seem logical, but it helped to add another n after the ], like this:
%FAM.HUSB[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME%, %FAM.HUSB[1]>NAME[1]:GIVEN_ALL%n%FAM.WIFE[1]>NAME[1]:SURNAME%, %FAM.WIFE[1]>NAME[1]:GIVEN_ALL%n[=RecordID(%FAM%)]n

It doesn't show, and nothing is deleted when I close and re-open the program.

I very dearly love this software, but sometimes you really need a lot of time to get it doing what you want it to do ...

Sabine

Just as a matter of interest, why do you not use:

%FAM.HUSB>NAME:SURNAME_FIRST%n%FAM.WIFE>NAME:SURNAME_FIRST%n[=RecordID(%FAM%)]

which is much more compact.

@Tatewise:

You are right; I hadn't thought of that. SURNAME_FIRST does the trick, too.

And I re-tried Jane's date and place version for the multiple marriages, and it works, too; the line now looks like this (for the second marriage):
=combinetext('with ',%INDI.~SPOU[2]>NAME[1]%,' ','') =combinetext('(',LifeDates(%INDI.~SPOU[2]>%),') ','') =combinetext('[IRN ',RecordId(%INDI.~SPOU[2]>%),'], ','') %INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR[1].DATE:COMPACT%, %INDI.FAMS[2]>MARR[1].PLAC%

Sabine