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Post by jeremyhills » 04 Sep 2011 15:12

Can someone remind, or tell me, how to have different multimedia images relating to the same source. For example, I have one source 'Ancestry Parish Records' (APR) and I can get a lot of citations to this, but I would like to have the relevant image attached to each one. Do I have to have lots of different sources, eg APR-1, APR-2, or can I have one source, but with different images for each link. Thanks,  Jeremy

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Post by nsw » 04 Sep 2011 17:41

The 'lots of sources' method is preferable - I'd actually have a source per entry rather than a particular date. You then need to just link the image to the source once. A marriage source might have multiple citations (marriage event, occupations, residence, etc.) and if you wanted an image linked to each of these citations then it will take a lot more work (though Ancestral Sources will do that for you if need be for baptisms and census and other source types to come in future versions).

Don't be put off by the idea of having thousands of sources. If you use citations to record the data instead you still end up with pretty much the same amount of data in your file, its just more hidden and therefore difficult to find if its recorded in your citations.

Anyway if you still prefer to attach images to the citation then you might actually be better off linking it to the event instead - Family Historian has good facilities for doing this and technically in the GEDCOM file it makes very little difference.

Hope that helps

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Post by tatewise » 04 Sep 2011 17:58

There are two primary schools of thought about how to organise sources.
In Ancestral Sources these are referred to as Method 1 and Method 2.

Method 1 has a separate Source Record for each documented event.
e.g. Birth Certificate, Marriage Certificate, Death Certificate, Household 1891 Census, etc.
The Multimedia, such as an image of the Certificate, are linked to the specific Source.
Any Fact related to a Source has a Citation linking the Fact to the Source.
There may be a few Facts linked to one Source.

Method 2 has one Source Record for a class of documents.
e.g. All Birth Certificates, All Marriage Certificates, All Death Certificates, Entire 1891 Census, or Ancestry Parish Records, etc.
All the Multimedia of the same class are all linked to the one Source Record.
In this scheme there are many more Citations all linked to one Source.
Each Citation has to identify which of the many documents is pertinent to the associated Fact.
There is a way of attaching Multimedia to a Citation, but it is hidden on the All tab.
Right-click on the citation that is actually labelled Source in the All tab, and choose Add Multimedia Object.
A more visible alternative is to add Multimedia directly to the Fact by selecting it in the Facts tab and clicking the Show Media camera icon.
In the popup window click Add button to add Multimedia, but if there is more than one Citation then it is not clear which one the image belongs to.

Whichever method you adopt, it is best to use it for all Sources - don't mix and match.

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Post by jeremyhills » 04 Sep 2011 18:43

Thanks to both, I will experiment and decide!

Jeremy

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Post by arishmell » 05 Sep 2011 06:29

tatewise said:
There are two primary schools of thought about how to organise sources.

Whichever method you adopt, it is best to use it for all Sources - don't mix and match.
Does it really matter if you mix and match?  I normally use Method 1: a separate Source Record for each documented event and Multimedia linked to the specific Source.  However, I also have generic Method 2 Sources, for example 'IGI Extraction' and 'IGI Submission' where no Multimedia is involved - there are no images and any data transcribed would be a duplication of what is already in the record fields.  

I use similar Sources: 'PR, DRO' where I have personally inspected the Parish Records at the Devon Record Office, and 'DFHS' referring to a Devon Family History Society transcription.  Again, there are no images or notes to support the information - the Source simply records where it was found.  If at a later date I obtain an image, I update the record with a Method 1 Source and delete the Method 2 Source.  Could this cause any problems?

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Post by nsw » 05 Sep 2011 08:26

arishmell said:

Does it really matter if you mix and match? ...... If at a later date I obtain an image, I update the record with a Method 1 Source and delete the Method 2 Source.  Could this cause any problems?
I think this sounds perfectly reasonable and I can't imagine that it will cause problems.

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Post by Johnyeates » 05 Sep 2011 10:24

I used to have general sources ie. Birth Certificate, 1851 Census, LDS Christening etc with each image(s) linked to the fact.
Then I had problems displaying images in reports for the 'Make CD' until Tatewise put me right and I am now working through all my facts/media and giving each fact a unique source with linked media - I may be some time doing this!

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Post by tatewise » 05 Sep 2011 10:28

arishmell, I agree, that sounds fine, because your 'Method 2' Sources have virtually NO data/images.
Therefore, the Citations do NOT have to identify which data/image is pertinent to the associated Fact, and that is where the problems start.

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