Could you please explain the link of two existing persons on the diagram? I have two families on the diagram where child on from one family married to the child from the other family. To marry those two people I needed to add spouse using link existing record to one of them because these are existing people. When I link these people, diagrams would show a spouse attached to each person and the link in form of the arc connecting two couples. This arc link can be of different color and looks odd on the diagram.
Is there option to control this link, color, etc?
Why is it necessary to couple both spouses twice on the diagram instead of linking them up once as other couples on the diagram?
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After reading Getting most from FH, I want to clarify my question. If I click one box per marriadge box, I see both sposes connected by yellow arc with circles attached to each spouse box. If I click on spouses in own box button, I see spouse one connected to spouse two and spouse two connected to spouse one. Each spouse pair connected by yellow arc with circles attached to each couple pair.
What is the arc for? Is it representing link to existing record? Why does it need to be different from the link to new person? Why clicking spouses in own box is showing two spouse pairs?
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What is the arc for? Is it representing link to existing record? Why does it need to be different from the link to new person? Why clicking spouses in own box is showing two spouse pairs?
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If people logically occur in two places, FH will put them in both places, you can control this using the Check for Duplicates tick box and option on the Diagram options.
As FH does not know which place you would like to show the people it shows them in both with a curved line to identify complex inter-relationships, as I said you can turn them off and optionally hide any boxes you don't want from your chart.
As FH does not know which place you would like to show the people it shows them in both with a curved line to identify complex inter-relationships, as I said you can turn them off and optionally hide any boxes you don't want from your chart.
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I think I did not explain my diagram well. I attached diagrams with my questions. Could you please explain curved lines on the diagram.
On Diagram 1 the two siblings showed as green boxes are already married. I want to marry the other two siblings showed as yellow boxes. Because they are exist on diagram I have to use link existing record option to relate them as husband and wife. Diagram 2 shows the result. The two brown boxes appeared for each of yellow box connected to yellow box and curved line linked both couples.
My question was what is the reason for this curved line? I did not get curved line when I related people represented by green boxes. Is curved line representing link to existing record? Why do we need duplicate brown boxes? Why could not we relate yellow boxes as showed on Diagram 3? I am just trying to understand diagram notation.
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On Diagram 1 the two siblings showed as green boxes are already married. I want to marry the other two siblings showed as yellow boxes. Because they are exist on diagram I have to use link existing record option to relate them as husband and wife. Diagram 2 shows the result. The two brown boxes appeared for each of yellow box connected to yellow box and curved line linked both couples.
My question was what is the reason for this curved line? I did not get curved line when I related people represented by green boxes. Is curved line representing link to existing record? Why do we need duplicate brown boxes? Why could not we relate yellow boxes as showed on Diagram 3? I am just trying to understand diagram notation.
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Family Historian uses the curved lines as duplicate relationships are seldom as simple as you example.
If you want to do something similar to your example, simply turn off the duplicate detection and then hide the boxes you don't want.
I attach an example from my own tree, as you can see this would be difficult if not impossible to display with out many cross over lines and would mean people might be missing from their own side of the tree with a very long line before you could see the information about them.

If you want to do something similar to your example, simply turn off the duplicate detection and then hide the boxes you don't want.
I attach an example from my own tree, as you can see this would be difficult if not impossible to display with out many cross over lines and would mean people might be missing from their own side of the tree with a very long line before you could see the information about them.

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>>Family Historian uses the curved lines as duplicate relationships are seldom as simple as you example.
Could you help me to understand why do I have duplicate relationship if two siblings in one family married to two siblings in the other family? I did not create duplicate people on the diagram, FH did. Those brown boxes appeared on the diagram when I connected yellow boxes.
I was able to hide brown boxes and now my diagram looks similar to Diagram 3 in my example except of yellow boxes are connected by curved line which is fine.
If I turn off check for duplicates, the curved line will disappear but I wanted to see the line connecting yellow boxes since those people are married so I left check for duplicates turned on. Why did you suggest to turn duplicate detection off if it hides the curved line?
I can see that there is a lot to learn about FH and I appreciate your help.
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Could you help me to understand why do I have duplicate relationship if two siblings in one family married to two siblings in the other family? I did not create duplicate people on the diagram, FH did. Those brown boxes appeared on the diagram when I connected yellow boxes.
I was able to hide brown boxes and now my diagram looks similar to Diagram 3 in my example except of yellow boxes are connected by curved line which is fine.
If I turn off check for duplicates, the curved line will disappear but I wanted to see the line connecting yellow boxes since those people are married so I left check for duplicates turned on. Why did you suggest to turn duplicate detection off if it hides the curved line?
I can see that there is a lot to learn about FH and I appreciate your help.
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The diagram below shows the marriages of two pairs of siblings (who were also 3rd cousins) which I created for the sample project:

With Caroline Riley as Root, the duplicate relationships are clearly shown. For example, Elizabeth Munro appears in the right-hand (Wiley) part of the tree as Caroline's 'brother's wife', and in the left-hand (Munro) part of the tree as Caroline's 'husband's sister'. This duplication is emphasized by the curved line linking the duplicate boxes. To answer one of the original questions, the curved lines can indeed be controlled (width, colour, curvature, etc.) by using the relevant button on the Diagram Options dialog:
Also please note that the appearance of duplicate boxes, and (optional) connecting lines between them, also depends on which diagram type is chosen, and which person or family is chosen as the starting point for the diagram.

With Caroline Riley as Root, the duplicate relationships are clearly shown. For example, Elizabeth Munro appears in the right-hand (Wiley) part of the tree as Caroline's 'brother's wife', and in the left-hand (Munro) part of the tree as Caroline's 'husband's sister'. This duplication is emphasized by the curved line linking the duplicate boxes. To answer one of the original questions, the curved lines can indeed be controlled (width, colour, curvature, etc.) by using the relevant button on the Diagram Options dialog:

Also please note that the appearance of duplicate boxes, and (optional) connecting lines between them, also depends on which diagram type is chosen, and which person or family is chosen as the starting point for the diagram.