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Post by tonyt » 06 Jan 2008 16:38

Was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the following please?

If a woman with a child from a previous marriage remarries and then the new husband officially adopts the child would it be re-registered in the birth register please?

I have someone who was born in Q3 1979, but then their birth registration appears to be re-registered in July 1989. Both in the same district.

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Post by zrlb » 06 Jan 2008 17:42

Have you checked that it is the identical person, and not a new baby, that has been registered in 1989? Perhaps the original person died, and the new baby given the name again.

Births had to be registered within 6 weeks of the event. I would be surprised to see someone's birth being re-registered at age 10!

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Post by tonyt » 06 Jan 2008 19:11

I met the 1979 person in 1987 and i'm 100% sure i would of heard if they had died. Also no record (it's a unique name) of a death in the bdm's. Additionally i think i've found them on facebook, but due to the delicacy of the situation (which i can't expand on on a public forum unfortunately) i can't really contact them and ask...

And i'm 99% sure there was never another child. And if the facebook entry _is_ the person then they are using the name of the 1989 person. I originally recorded them as 2 people but am now 99% convinced they are the same person now

I also met the mother/2nd father again in 1990 and am sure i would remember if there was a new baby

So i was trying to work out if adoptions ever got registered in the birth records in a situation where the mothers new husband adopted a wifes child. If this was the case then it would pretty much confirm they are the same person

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Edit: I guess the only thing would be to try and order the 1989 certificate and see what that shows

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Post by tonyt » 07 Jan 2008 06:25

Actually that last post is a bit too cryptic and therefore looks a little odd

What i can say is that person in question is my niece and the mother is my 'estranged' sister

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Post by AnneEast » 09 Jan 2008 22:45

I'm pretty sure that a person is re-registered on adoption. I don't have personal experience of this but from reading other forums I do believe it is so.

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Post by tonyt » 12 Jan 2008 13:45

Thanks Anne. It does seem to be this.

(It turned out to be a fair bit more complicated than a straight adoption though, but i don't feel comfortable posting the details on an open forum)

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Post by jmurphy » 23 Jan 2008 17:17

Just wanted to mention that I subscribe to Cyndi Howell's mailing list on which she announces the new links that have been submitted to her web site 'Cyndi's List'.

One of the recent emails had a link for John and Barbara Dixon's web site. Barbara Dixon has a series of tutorials on registrations in England and Wales.

The BMD page is at

http://www.thosedixons.net/certificates/indexbmd.html

Births are on this page:

http://www.thosedixons.net/certificates/births.html

I was hoping that there would be an answer to the 'delayed certificate' problem in her overview (which is quite extensive) but alas, this is one of the topics which she does not cover. [oops]

She does talk about what provisions there are for name changes, but that is mostly to do with people whose names are changed when they were baptised, etc.

Still, it might be worth taking a look in case I missed something when I was reading.

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Post by tonyt » 23 Jan 2008 17:26

Thanks Jan, will take a look

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Post by jmurphy » 23 Jan 2008 20:10

The other question I would ask is, if there is a name change for a child adopted by the new husband, if there is no new certificate issued, where else might that information be recorded?

In my own case, (ordinary adoption as an infant in the US) I have a 'birth registration' rather than a birth certificate. issued a week after I was born, that shows my new name.

Assume you were the new husband and married someone and wanted her child to have your name -- what is required of you, and what agency would you have to deal with in order to get that done? Then use that as a guideline while researching what agencies might have been involved during the period the name change you are looking at took place.

I will try to take a look in Ancestral Trails later tonight and see what I can come up with.

Jan

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