* Records Window

[Overloaded]

Still trying to get a grip on structures:

As near as I can tell, FH can be used in a very structured way, as demonstrated in the tutorials, or more loosely.  I'm trying to create the more structured format, but work within the tree that I loaded.

So -
1) From the Individual Records window;
   -> the Sources Tab
       Should my sources be consolidated?  e.g., should all my references to the 1841 census have just one source?  If so, how can I consolidate my multiple instances?

2)  What is considered the 'ideal' record layout for a birth?  Census?

3)  When I want to 'add' a witness to a birth fact/record, I don't seem to have that option?

thanks
sarah

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[johnmorrisoniom]

Both methods are viable, but if you have started with individual sources, then stay with it.
To record census entries ( and Baptisms), use ancestral sources. This already has the templates for the individual census years (other variations of templates are availbale in the downloads area. You are using method 1 in AS terms.
AS will suggest the source names for you, so giving the structured feel you are after. Baptisms are also catered for and weddings will be available soon.

[Jane]

1. Am with John, I prefer one source per document rather than one per source type, you can always use the Source Type field on the the source of you want to select all the sources for example for the 1841 Census. It means it's much easier to manage attached media and makes it very easy to find all the records linked to a single household entry, which can be tricky with just a single source with the details in the citations.

2. Personally I just put the most basic information in to the text from source field, as I always attach the scanned certificate to the source.

3. At the moment there is not support to add participants to Events, but you can add associated persons, or simply add the details in to the event note, as you can always do a query to find all the matches if you need to with a simple text search, to help this I put the record ID, if I can work out which John Smith it was, after the name).

[NickWalker]

1. I'd always recommend the source per census/certificate/parish entry. Particularly if you are planning to either link an image or transcribe an entry.

2. Ancestral Sources currently supports Census and Baptism entries but a new version arriving soon will also deal with marriage entries too. There are several templates included to produce a transcript of the census/baptism/marriage being entered. You are limited somewhat by the fact that the source text can only be pure text with no bold/underline or table formats. You also may want to consider how it will look if included in a report.

3. For Baptism and Marriage entries Ancestral Sources gives you the option to add 'Associated Individuals', i.e. people associated with the event such as god-parents or witnesses. Again there isn't a standard way to record this information so AS gives you several options. For example, you might just record the names of the witnesses in the local note of the marriage fact, or you might create a custom 'Witness' fact. There is also a gedcom Association Structure that can be used but this isn't very flexible and isn't currently particularly well supported by FH (they don't appear in reports).

[tatewise]

I go with the AS Method 1 approach with one Source Record per document source.
i.e. one Census Household, one Birth Index/Certificate/Parish Record, one Marriage Index/Certificate/Parish Record, etc.

Searching the Forums and the Knowledge Base will give lots of advice.
Here are a few gems, that also have further links:
Forums How do you organise sources on your PC (6791)
Knowledge Base > Ancestral Sources > Tutorials at
http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id ... rces:index
Knowledge Base > FHUG Downloads > Property Box Tabs: Associated Persons at
http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id ... ed_persons
Knowledge Base > FHUG Downloads > Fact Set ~ Kinsfolk Facts & Sources at
http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id ... ts_sources
There are many more...

[pwe]

To deal with birth informant etc I have created a custom event 'birth informant'. Go to 'tools' 'work with fact sets' and then click on 'new' to create your event.
I have created custom events for bith informant, death informant and marriage witness.

Peter E

[Overloaded]

All right -
I'm trying to use the death/burial fact set:
http://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id ... and_burial

Downloaded - check
Double clicked - check

Go to the Fact box, Add Fact - death_and_burial are not there.

Double click again -> dialog box says it's already loaded, load again with additional digit? [cancel]

Import it from File -> same dialog box.

So, apparently it's already in my FH, but how do I access it?

thanks

[Jane]

No, I think you are missing the fact that the fact set contains several Facts.   When the Prompt is showing select the new fact set from the drop down at the top to see the Fact types which have been added.