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Post by Jane » 01 Dec 2009 11:24

Do you mean pick up the Abbreviation field from the Fact set? or which field from the Fact Set do you want to use?
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Post by PeterR » 02 Dec 2009 16:12

The GEDCOM 5.5 standard certainly envisaged this use of the TYPE tag as a subordinate of the MARR tag:
The MARR tag could be subordinated with a TYPE tag and EVENT_DESCRIPTOR value of Common Law. Other possible descriptor values might include 'Childbirth%unmarried,' 'Common Law,' or 'Tribal Custom,' for example. The event descriptor should use the same word or phrase and in the same language, when possible, as was used by the recorder of the event. Systems that display data from the GEDCOM form should be able to display the descriptor value in their screen or printed output.
For completeness, the Descriptor field should also be available via a Template Code for use in the Sentence field.
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Post by PeterR » 02 Dec 2009 19:48

Yes, I agreed with your suggestion about the use of the TYPE tag as subordinate to the MARR tag.  But your latest quote from the GEDCOM Standard refers to those Facts (typically Custom Facts) where the TYPE tag has to be used to define the Fact itself, rather than provide an additional description.  The next sentence is: 'For example, if the event was a purchase of a residence, the EVEN tag would be followed by a subordinate TYPE tag with the value 'Purchased Residence.' For such (Custom) Facts, the TYPE tag/Descriptor field already appears on the Facts tab in FH.
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Post by Bilko » 02 Dec 2009 22:40

Hi folks,

Could we take this back a level and consider reality, please? The GEDCOM Standard was written by Americans belonging to the LDS Church and they wrote the Standard to their unique version of ENGLISH (?).

The word TYPE, as used, has two distinct meanings (although this is not obvious).

When used for 'User' defined events (aka Custom Facts), it means {as Peter said} the Descriptor / Title / Name of the Event. This IS shown in Family Historian.

When used in reference to another other TAG {as defined in Appendix A of Gedcom 5.5), TYPE certainly describes a sub-division (as Sarah has tried to say).

From http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ... gcappa.htm, the full quote about IDNO that Sarah tried to point out is ->

NATIONAL_ID_NUMBER: = {Size=1:30}   A nationally-controlled number ....... The use of the IDNO tag requires a subordinate TYPE tag to identify what kind of number is being stored.
For example :
 n IDNO 43-456-1899
   +1 TYPE Canadian Health Registration    


As far as I can tell (I've modified a GEDCOM file to test the possibilities) - The use of TYPE to modify a TAG is NOT implemented in Family Historian 4. The exceptions to this are, obviously, EVEN and custom TAGs (ie _ATTR Attribute).

I personally wonder if the use of TYPE with any other TAG than EVEN is necessary - if required use an EVEN or _ATTR.

Perhaps Simon Orde would be the best person to resolve this.

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Bilko [smile]

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Post by Bilko » 03 Dec 2009 10:08

Hi Sarah,

After reading your last reply, I found that the TYPE tag is indeed implemented and available as you describe. I apologise to Simon & the FH design team for my previous comment on this.

Bilko [oops]

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