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Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 16 Mar 2022 15:14
by Rhoda
As described in the following link;
https://groups.io/g/family-historian/topic/89797708, I am having issues with backing up and restoring FH to a new computer.
Mike T has suggested starting the process again and I would be very grateful for support in this.
Thank you.
Rhoda
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 16 Mar 2022 15:57
by tatewise
OK, the first step is to describe what process you performed on the source Windows 10 PC.
It may be necessary to run through it again.
One problem was the USB stick had two
Family Historian Project folders nested in each other.
So how could that have been created on the source PC?
You say you used the 'Backup and Restore FH Settings' plugin to Backup customisations.
What is the full file path to its Backup folder on the source PC?
How did you copy that Backup folder to the USB memory stick?
How did you copy all your Projects to the USB memory stick?
You also mentioned Google Drive. That is an alternative way of migrating folders from PC to PC.
Are you planning to have Google Drive on the target Windows 11 PC?
Once the source side of things is clear we can then proceed to the target Windows 11 PC.
Screenshots of useful details would be helpful and can save a lot of description.
See FHUG Knowledge Base
Forum Usage Tips under
Attachments for advice.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 17 Mar 2022 17:34
by Rhoda
Mike,
As suggested I have started the whole process again.
The following screenshots should show you how I created my backup file on the source PC.
I will send a further two to show the end result.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 17 Mar 2022 17:37
by Rhoda
Last two shots of backup on the source PC.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 17 Mar 2022 17:59
by tatewise
OK, so the full path of the plugin's Backup Folder is:
C:\Users\terry\Documents\Family Historian Projects\Birkenhead Charsleys\Public
That holds a Family Historian folder with all the backed up customisation folders & files nested inside.
That path is nearly 100 characters long and the Windows limit is 255 characters.
It should be OK unless you tend to use very long names for saving custom Diagram Types, Report Types, Queries, etc.
The next step is to migrate the Family Historian Projects folder listed above to the target Windows 11 PC.
So you need to use Windows File Explorer to Copy that folder to your USB stick.
The USB stick file path should be something like this:
D:\Family Historian Projects\Birkenhead Charsleys\Public\...
with all the other Project folders inside the Family Historian Projects folder.
Do you agree?
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 10:26
by Rhoda
This is the path of the plugin backup folder. Is it as you would expect?

- Full path of Plugin folder.png (134.02 KiB) Viewed 1445 times
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 11:05
by tatewise
Yes, that all looks good.
I assume that you have performed the
Tools > External File Links... command checks for each Project as advised in the
Family Historian Copy and Migration Guide under
Media Files. If not then please do so now.
The next step is to migrate your
Family Historian Projects folder to the target Windows 11 PC.
So you need to use Windows File Explorer to Copy that folder to your ESD-USB stick.
The ESD-USB stick file path should be something like this:
E:\Family Historian Projects\Birkenhead Charsleys\Public\...
with all the other Project folders inside the
Family Historian Projects folder.
BTW: In several of your recent screenshots you appear to have FH open twice on the same Birkenhead Charsleys Project.
That is not a good idea as they will be sharing the same GEDCOM file, etc.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 12:11
by Rhoda
Is this correct?
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 12:45
by tatewise
Yes, perfect.
That is better than the screenshot you posted in the
family-historian@groups.io which had:
D:\Family Historian Projects\Family Historian Projects\... etc
The new Windows 11 PC screenshot you posted in the
family-historian@groups.io had:
C:\Users\Rhoda\Documents\Family Historian Projects\Family Historian Projects\Family Historian Projects\...
I presume all those
Family Historian Projects folders have only just been created.
So there is no harm in deleting the top-level
Family Historian Projects folder that is inside
Documents.
That will remove all those nested folders that are superfluous, so you can start from scratch.
Now you can use Windows File Explorer to Copy the
Family Historian Projects folder from the USB stick into the Windows 11
C:\Users\Rhoda\Documents folder.
It is the exact same process as you just performed on the Windows 10 PC but in the reverse direction.
Post a screenshot of those folders after that Copy.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 14:20
by Rhoda
How's this?
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 14:37
by tatewise
That is also perfect
I wonder what you did differently before to get those multiple nested
Family Historian Projects folders?
Now you should be able to run FH and open all six Projects via the
File > Project Window... command.
Just ensure the Location: near the bottom is the Installation Default
My Documents\Family Historian Projects
Right-click your preferred Project name and choose
Set as Default Project so it opens automatically.
If that all goes well, then you can run the
Backup and Restore Family Historian Settings plugin as instructed in the
Restoring Program Settings section of the
Family Historian Copy and Migration Guide. Please follow the instructions carefully.
The Backup Folder: location should be
C:\Users\Rhoda\Documents\Family Historian Projects\Birkenhead Charsleys\Public
Finally, work through the remaining sections of the
Family Historian Copy and Migration Guide.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 15:06
by Rhoda
Thanks Mike.
I now have this "minor error message" which I cannot understand as I seem to have the latest version of FH on my PC
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 18 Mar 2022 16:07
by tatewise
Rhoda, when reporting errors like that, please tell us what you did to get the error message.
Your error message screenshot was blank so I removed it.
I suspect you are getting the message when you try to use Restore in the plugin.
It is because you did not update to the latest FH V7.0.11 on the old Windows 10 PC as advised.
Assuming it is only that the last number is different, e.g. you had FH V7.0.9 or V7.0.10 on the old PC then in the plugin on the Options tab tick the Allow the FH Program Version to be later than the Backup Folder Version option.
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 20 Mar 2022 15:33
by Rhoda
Mike thank you so much for your patience. The migration seems to have worked!
I think the nested tables may have occurred because I tried to back up the Project onto the USB several times without deleting the destination folder on each attempt. I think I thought that a new folder would be created on each attempt (distinguished by date and time) but that clearly was not the case.
You are correct that the the "Minor Error Message" occurred at the Restore stage. It said "FH Version 7.0.11.0 Installed does not match Version 7.0.11.0 Backup. Install a free update so the program version matches the backup version to make them compatible..."
I did not understand this, firstly because the message implies that the two versions are actually the same and secondly because I did follow your advice and upgraded to the latest version before I started, although this appeared to be 7.0.11.
Your advice to select the option to "Allow the FH Program Version to be later than the Backup Version" seems to have done the trick however.
I also do not know why my final screen shot did not appear. I obviously need to work on Paint.
Anyway, Thanks again for your time and trouble.
Best wishes,
Rhoda
Re: Problem with multiple nested FH Project folders
Posted: 20 Mar 2022 15:41
by tatewise
I'm glad we got there in the end and that everything continues to be OK.