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Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by tatewise » 30 Dec 2020 11:21

I need help checking some features of FTM 2019 when using my Export Gedcom File plugin Version 4.1.
I do not wish to purchase FTM 2019 so cannot test the features myself.
Currently, the plugin exports a Sort Date (2 _SDATE) for every fact in (FTM) Family Tree Maker 2019 mode.

There is some evidence that FTM 2019 supports Sort Dates (2 _SDATE) in GEDCOM Assessment ~ Family Tree Maker 2019 under the Date Sort test using the script shown at 01-Anecdote before Biography.

However, some FH users have reported that FTM 2019 does NOT support Sort Dates (2 _SDATE).

Can anyone familiar with FTM 2019 provide a definitive answer.

Testing of any other FTM 2019 features would be welcome.

While doing that please experiment with the FH File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File... command with Destination: Family Tree Maker and feedback how FTM copes.

All the above experiments can be performed using either FH V6.2.7 or FH V7.0 but do say which you used.
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 13:31

Hi Mike,

I have tried everything I know, and as far as I am concerned, I dont think FTM2019 supports Sort dates, I know it says it does on the link you posted, but I have looked through all the documentation, tried importing from your plugin using all different settings. FTM ignores the sort dates. In the program itself, I can find no mention or method of using a sort date. If anyone else knows different, I would be pleased to learn how :-)

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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by tatewise » 30 Dec 2020 14:12

Thank you Dave.
Can you try and repeat the tiny GEDCOM Assessment script as shown below.
Normally Biography 1901 should appear before Anecdote 1902 unless _SDATE 1900 takes effect, which is what happens when opened in FH V7.0 due to the Sort Date overriding the fact Dates.
BTW: Also, please try the FH export command and feedback your experience.

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0 HEAD
1 GEDC
2 VERS 5.5.1
2 FORM LINEAGE-LINKED
1 CHAR UTF-8
1 SOUR ASSESSMENT
2 VERS 1.05
1 LANG English
1 COPR Copyright (C) 2020 by John Cardinal. All rights reserved.
1 NOTE Everyone is permitted to download and use this GEDCOM file,
2 CONT assess.ged. There is no usage fee. You may edit assess.ged
2 CONT for your own use. You may not distribute copies of assess.ged,
2 CONT in any form, amended or not.
1 SUBM @SUBM@
0 @SUBM@ SUBM
1 NAME John Cardinal
0 @I51@ INDI
1 NAME 01-Anecdote before Biography /Date Sort/
1 SEX M
1 EVEN
2 TYPE Biography
2 DATE 1901
1 EVEN
2 TYPE Anecdote
2 DATE 1902
2 _SDATE 1900
0 TRLR
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 17:45

Hi Mike, Tried that one before, but just done it again, image attached, below
Test 01.jpg
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 17:49

I will have a play with the built in export later, one thing I noticed when I tried it in the Beta was that Preferred Image was not included but I will have a try now we are in the release version.
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 20:50

tatewise wrote:
30 Dec 2020 11:21
I need help checking some features of FTM 2019 when using my Export Gedcom File plugin Version 4.1.
I do not wish to purchase FTM 2019 so cannot test the features myself.
Currently, the plugin exports a Sort Date (2 _SDATE) for every fact in (FTM) Family Tree Maker 2019 mode.

There is some evidence that FTM 2019 supports Sort Dates (2 _SDATE) in GEDCOM Assessment ~ Family Tree Maker 2019 under the Date Sort test using the script shown at 01-Anecdote before Biography.

Mike, I downloaded the Assess.Ged from the link above, importing into FTM 2019, I agree with the findings apart from:-

1. Date Sort, on my import, Anecdote with the sort date 1900 was ignored and not sorted above Biography (as per my previous post)
2. Divorce was imported (shows as pending on link)

All the other items seem to agree with the results on the link you posted.

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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by tatewise » 30 Dec 2020 20:59

That is all helpful and I intend to remove Sort Dates for the FTM 2019 exported GEDCOM.

The GEDCOM Assessment of FTM, Date: 2020-02-05, was performed with assess.ged v1.02 whereas you have used v1.05 and there are 50+ Pending tests, so a little surprised you say you agree with the findings apart from just Date Sort and Divorce :?:
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 21:07

tatewise wrote:
30 Dec 2020 20:59
That is all helpful and I intend to remove Sort Dates for the FTM 2019 exported GEDCOM.

The GEDCOM Assessment of FTM, Date: 2020-02-05, was performed with assess.ged v1.02 whereas you have used v1.05 and there are 50+ Pending tests, so a little surprised you say you agree with the findings apart from just Date Sort and Divorce :?:
I am tired, I know I have not done them all lol, what I should have said is all I have checked so far.

I will check the rest later this week Mike.
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 22:17

@Mike

I have checked all the Pending ones that I missed apart from Restrictions, I am not sure I got my head around that one correctly, will look at that later.

Please see below

Pending 01-Family Event (YYy) - Was Ignored
Pending 02-Individual Attribute (YYy) - Was Ignored
Pending 03-Individual Event (YYy MMm DDd) - Was Ignored
Pending 04-Individual Event (YYy) - Was Ignored
Pending 05-Individual Event (Mmm) - Was Ignored
Pending 06-Individual Event (DDd) - Was Ignored
Pending 07-Individual Event (YYy MMm) - Was Ignored
Pending 08-Individual Event (YYy DDd) - Was Ignored
Pending 09-Individual Event (Mmm DDd) - Was Ignored
Pending 10-Individual Event (LT YYy) - Was Ignored
Pending 11-Individual Event (GT YYy) - Was Ignored
Pending 12-Individual Event (CHILD) - Was Ignored
Pending 13-Individual Event (INFANT) - Was Ignored
Pending 14-Individual Event (STILLBORN) - Was Ignored
Pending 12-RESI (Residence) - was imported correctly
Pending 01-INDI Change Date - Was Ignored
Pending 02-INDI Change Date Note - Was Ignored
Pending 03-INDI Change Date Time1 - Was Ignored
Pending 04-INDI Change Date Time2 - Was Ignored
Pending 05-INDI Change Date Time3 - Was Ignored
Pending 02-ANUL (Annulment) - was imported correctly
Pending 16-DIV (Divorce) - was imported correctly
Pending 17-DIVF (Divorce Filing) - was imported correctly
Pending 19-ENGA (Engagement) - was imported correctly
Pending 21-EVEN (Anniversary) - Was Ignored
Pending 25-MARB (Marriage Bann) - was imported correctly
Pending 26-MARC (Marriage Contract) - was imported correctly
Pending 27-MARL (Marriage License) - was imported correctly
Pending 28-MARR (Marriage) - was imported correctly
Pending 29-MARS (Marriage Settlement) - was imported correctly
Pending 33-RESI (Residence Family) - was imported correctly
Pending 09-Primary Name with Memo - was imported correctly
Pending 10-Secondary Name with Memo - was imported correctly
Pending 01-PEDI Adoptive - Was Ignored
Pending 02-PEDI Birth - was imported correctly (Or more likely just the default based on adoptive & Foster result?)
Pending 03-PEDI Foster - Was Ignored
Pending Letters N and S indicating non-standard 04-XREL Step Father - was imported correctly
Pending Letters N and S indicating non-standard 05-XREL Step Mother - was imported correctly
Pending Letters N and S indicating non-standard 06-XREL Step Parents - was imported correctly

I need to read to understand the ones below properly

Pending 01-FAM Confidential
Pending 02-FAM Locked
Pending 03-FAM Private
Pending 04-INDI Confidential
Pending 05-INDI Locked
Pending 06-INDI Private
Pending 07-BIRT Confidential
Pending 08-BIRT Locked
Pending 09-BIRT Private
Pending Letters N and S indicating non-standard 10-NAME Confidential
Pending Letters N and S indicating non-standard 11-NAME Locked
Pending Letters N and S indicating non-standard 12-NAME Private
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 30 Dec 2020 22:47

And this was the import log

GEDCOM Import

File: D:\Downloads\assess.ged
Created by: ASSESSMENT 1.05

Errors

Line 1487: error 4 : Unsupported or invalid tag: WWW. Line ignored.
Line 1099: error 4 : Unsupported or invalid tag: ASSO. Line ignored.
Line 1140: error 9 : Invalid record type: _PLAC. Record ignored.
Line 1158: error 9 : Invalid record type: _PLAC. Record ignored.
Line 1172: error 4 : Unsupported or invalid tag: TYPE. Line ignored.
Line 1181: error 4 : Unsupported or invalid tag: TYPE. Line ignored.
Line 1320: error 4 : Unsupported or invalid tag: EMAI. Line ignored.

Import Summary

Individuals: 262
Families: 24
Sources: 06
Media: 19
Records: 623
Errors: 07
Time: 00:00:05.248
Rate: (118 records/sec)
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by tatewise » 01 Jan 2021 20:28

The updated Export Gedcom File V4.1.2 (18578) excludes Sort Dates from FTM if you would like to try it.
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Re: Help wanted exporting to FTM 2019

Post by davepacey » 01 Jan 2021 22:18

tatewise wrote:
01 Jan 2021 20:28
The updated Export Gedcom File V4.1.2 (18578) excludes Sort Dates from FTM if you would like to try it.
Hi Mike,

I have downloaded it and I will give it a try over the weekend, Been a bit tied up today, Happy new year to all.
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