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FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by gerrynuk » 03 Jun 2014 19:19

I am posting this topic to identify an issue with FH plugins running under Crossover on OSX Mavericks. Hovering over a Button can have one of at least two undesirable effects:

1. The ToolTip displays as a black rectangle:
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2. Or the Tooltip rapidly flashes on and off. When the ToolTip is flashing drop-down selectors do not function properly. Moving the cursor quickly onto the drop down menu is possible but an unreliable workaround.

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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by tatewise » 03 Jun 2014 20:06

That looks it may be a Crossover implementation problem with Windows Tooltips.

Please try some other Windows Tooltip experiments.

1) In FH Property Box on the Facts tab and Multimedia tab hover over the buttons at the top, and halfway down, and in the Sources pane to see the FH Tooltips.

2) In AS hover over most buttons and blue links to see AS Tooltips.

3) In FH run the Improve Website or CD DVD HTML Plugin and hover over almost anything to see old style Plugin Tooltips.

If these also misbehave then report the problem to the Crossover team.

If only the more recent Plugin Tooltips misbehave, then I can easily revert to the old style Plugin Tooltips in future updates.
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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by gerrynuk » 03 Jun 2014 21:13

Tried the three experiments and the Tooltips all displayed correctly.

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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by tatewise » 03 Jun 2014 21:38

OK, thank you for that.
The new style Plugin Tooltips are called Balloon style with the appearance of a cartoon "balloon" with rounded corners and a stem pointing to the item.

This does appear to be a standard Windows Tooltip style.
Just do a Google search for How to Implement Balloon Tooltips (Windows) for further info.

Perhaps try reporting the problem to the Crossover team.

If they can't or won't fix it, I can revert to the old standard style Tooltips, but they do lack some neat new features.
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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by gerrynuk » 04 Jun 2014 19:15

Mike,

If you don't mind, I will hold this Tooltip issue to post later on Codeweavers as I don't want to get embroiled in two discussions there at the same time, especially as I may be a bit out of my depth if the responses get technical. If someone else wants to take up the cudgels in the meantime then I would be delighted to pass the baton over to them.

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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by gerrynuk » 09 Jun 2014 21:30

Further to my previous post I am unsure whether it would be worthwhile raising the Tooltip problem at Codeweaver as their support is only using the trial version of FH and say they can't run plugins on this version.

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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by tatewise » 09 Jun 2014 22:25

Note the Google search for How to Implement Balloon Tooltips (Windows) for further info.
It is NOT specifically a Plugin nor FH issue, but a general Windows problem.
I would have thought CodeWeavers should be able to create a small C++ program with a Balloon Tooltip to test Crossover.
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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by tatewise » 15 Jun 2014 21:43

I have designed a workaround for this tooltip problem.
This allows a right-click on the Set Window Fonts button to toggle between the two tooltip modes (default & balloon).
The setting is remembered for all Projects for each particular Plugin.
The change does not take effect until the plugin is closed and re-run.
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Re: FH Plugins and Crossover - ToolTip Issues

Post by tatewise » 17 Jun 2014 18:01

The Improve Website or CD DVD HTML Plugin V2.4 is in the Plugin Store with the above 'magic' feature.
Right-click on the Set Window Fonts button to toggle between the two tooltip modes.
Click the Help & Advice and in the new window check the tooltip mode on the buttons.
When OK, close and re-open the Plugin and all its tooltips should remain permanently in that mode, even after Restore Defaults.

You might like to use Publish > Create a Website in FH and check the Plugin options are OK.
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