* Sources Citations migrating from FTM

[psinacio]

Guys,

I am trying to migrate from FTM to FH.
And I need help to understand how FH works..
Enclosed I have two pictures of the Sources view page on FTM and the Sources view page on FH.

Where do I access citations on FH? It is not clear to me.

FTM:


FH


Thanks!

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[Jane]

As you have V5 simply download the Citations linked to a source plugin and select the source in the Records window and run the plugin or use the View>Record Links option on the menu

[AdrianBruce]

1. 'Where do I find the people linked to the citation?' What you can get is the people linked to the SOURCE Record. Select the Source Record, click menu item View / Record Links and you'll get a pop-up window listing the people (or families or note-records) linked to the Source-Record.

2. 'Where do I find the Citations?' Follow Jane's advice and download that plug-in. Select the SOURCE Record you want to interrogate; run the plug-in and you'll get a grid showing you what's been entered in that yellow source pane for each citation, with the title of the source record.

Unfortunately, you won't see the full text that would appear in a printed report because that grid doesn't show the publication details, author, etc from the Source Record. On the other hand, those items are visible by clicking the +-sign as you did for the selected Source Record.

Now - why is this clunky compared to what you can do in FTM? I'm not sure if this is going to help or not, Pedro, but I'll try. Let me warn you I'm not familiar with FTM but from your very useful screen-shot, I think this is what's going on.

In FTM one Source at the left (pointed to by your blue box) has many citations (listed in the middle) and each of those citations can point to many people (listed below). (Tell me if I'm wrong, please!)

This is NOT how FH works. It doesn't work like this because it's not how GEDCOM works. Instead, one source has many citations (like the 256 you highlighted below). Each citation points points to only one person. Indeed it points to only one fact.

So suppose you have a baptism that refers to (say) three people. Obviously the citation content will be the same for the different facts help against the three people. How do you enter it? Well, you type it in once but because of the way that GEDCOM is structured, FH must hold three (at least) copies of the same citation data. That's what Tools / Set Automatic Source Citation will do automatically, as will Ancestral Sources, as will just plain copying and pasting the citation from one fact to another. So it's not hard to set up but it does mean that it's different from FTM once it's entered because it's all held quite differently.

I'm not sure if this helps or not, but it might if you're trying to understand.

[mardler]

Hello. I'm coming to this some months later with exactly the same issue. I really panicked this morning because I couldn't find the citation details and thought I'd just wasted a whole lot of time before going live with FH. Then I found your helpful question and equally helpful responses. (This isn't going to be a technical explanation - so I may have some of the words wrong.)

The information you entered into FTM is not lost, since it is still in the same GED file, but it is difficult to spot.

- Pick one of the facts for which you have a source and a citation in FTM.
- Open the Individual window for the relevant person in FH.
- Go to the fact and click on the plus sign
- you should see the same source you used within FTM, but you'll also see another plus sign next to the source.
- click on that second plus sign

Bingo! Your FTM citation appears as the box marked 'Where within source'. That seems to make eminent sense.

For example, within FTM I use newspaper titles as a source and then the date of the newspaper as the citation. FH makes it clear that anyone wanting to check my work needs to look at the newspaper (source) for that particular day (Where within source)

Regards
Paul

[tatewise]

An alternative but more readable method is via the Property Box.

In the Property Box of your chosen Individual select the Facts tab.
Then select one of the Facts (e.g. Born) for which you have a Source and a Citation in FTM.
In the right-hand yellow Sources pane will be listed all the Sources.
Select any Source and its Citation details will be displayed below in fields such as Where within Source, etc.

BTW: If the yellow Sources pane is not shown, then click the Show Sources yellow scroll icon in the toolbar at the top of the Property Box.