* Broodbanks of Rendham Non conformists

[jsphillips]

I am researching my wifes family of Broodbanks (not Broadbank)
I have been succesful until now.

(1)I wanted the name of William Joshua Broodbanks wife .. It is listed as Mary on all the children born from this marriage.
William Joshua Broodbank born c 1764 married 1786 to Mary X

One location lists a Mary Andrews ? born 1765 but no source.
In all cases the marriages and births are all Listed as non conformist churchurch/chapel in Rendham Suffolk.
I have visited Ancestry, Find my past, The Genealogist , Family Search (Mormons) to no avail.
I have also visited the Suffolk (ipswich) County Office, Dr Williams Library.
THe GRO, TNA, and Suffolk County Records have records under RG4 for births and deaths but not for marriages.
No one can point me where I could find Marriage records for Rendham non conformists for the period 1780-1800.
The data I have is
William Joshua born c 1764 (no actual fixed date of birth or baptism)
Wife possibly Mary Andrews born c 1765 Peasenhall? (again no fixed dob or baptism)
Children:-
Thomas Broodbank b 7 July 1793
William Broodbank b 14 July 1791 chr 9 June 1796
Mary Broodbank b 12 July 1802
I also have unconfirmed other children of a William Brood bank and Mary in Rendham :-
Ann Broodbank b 2/3/1788 chr 20/3/1788
Eliz Broodbank b 25/4/1804 chr 7/3/1805
John Broodbank b 7/10/1797 chr 27/1/1798
Samuel Broodbank b 10/9/1789 chr 6/10/1789
Benjamin Broodbank b 25/3/1796 chr 9/6/1796
and another Benjamin Broodbank b 31/3/1806 chr 14/9/1806
ALL of these refer to non conformist Rendham chapel Suffolk with Father William Broodbank mother just Mary
The TNA RG4 does not list marriages either

If marriage act of 1795 applied to non conformity where would be the registers at Saxmundham Plomesgate Framlingham parish churches???
What Archdeaconry district covered Rendham in 1796 ?
Any pointer please for where to search or who to contact I am exhausted ||
Thanks
Anthony Phillips

[mjashby]

Marriages from 1754 (Hardwicke's Marriage Act) would have to have taken place in a Parish Church, unless they were Quakers or Jews.

Mervyn

[AdrianBruce]

GENUKI is usually a good place to start. Places in Suffolk are listed on http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SFK/Where/ - from there one can go to (e.g.) Rendham (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SFK/Rendham/), which turns out to be a Church of England parish in its own right. As stated above, for 1754-1837, everyone had to marry in a Church of England parish church unless they were Quakers or Jews.

There are a couple of things to be wary of with CofE - firstly note that marriages must be in a parish church. So, normally, even CofE chapels of ease could no longer conduct marriages after 1754 - only the one parish church in the parish could do so. However, particularly in large parishes, CofE chapels could be granted the right to carry out marriages. There seems no rhyme nor reason over which chapels could do so - in my home county of Cheshire, Witton chapel (just above Northwich) could conduct marriages in Great Budworth parish but no chapel in Macclesfield could (at least not initially) do so, so everyone went to Prestbury to get married - which inevitably results in a message on the Cheshire Mailing List saying someone can't find their relatives getting married in Macc, only someone of the same names in Prestbury but that can't be them because they never lived there...

And taking it a bit further, many non-conformists had to be buried in CofE graveyards simply because they were the only ones in the area.

[LornaCraig]

One location lists a Mary Andrews ? born 1765 but no source.

You don't say what this 'location' is, but you may be referring to one of the members' trees on Ancestry. There are several trees containing William Joshua Broodbanks (although most of them spell it 'Broadbanks'), most giving his wife as Mary Andrews. However they nearly all seem to cite some other Ancestry family tree as their source. The trick is to find which tree the others have all copied.

There is one which has a marriage date of 1786 and a marriage place of Peasenhall, but does not cite any other tree. It appears to be the source for some of the others, although admitedly this tree just calls him William Broodbank, without his middle name, and only includes one of his children. It might be worth contacting the owner of that tree (unless it happens to be you??!!) to ask where they got that information. They might not have any more information than you have, but there's nothing to lose by asking. http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/320199 ... 1754553932

[jsphillips]

Thanks all
Yes that is what I found everyone seems to copy everyone else.
Yes Lorna I will try link to Ancestry.
Even some 40+ years after the act and still I find that not all records are available to search on Marriages although they obviously happened.
Best regards and thanks again

[mjashby]

Peasenhall Parish Registers may be the start point you need. According to Phillimore's Atlas and Index of Parish Registers the Registers are available for 1588 onwards, but haven't been indexed on FamilySearch. In fact, the number of Suffolk Parishes appearing on FamilySearch is only a relatively small proportion of those available. Unfortunately, for researchers at a distance from Suffolk, Parish Registers (presumably microfilm/fiche) only seem to be available at Suffolk Records Office (See - http://www.suffolkheritagedirect.org.uk ). The Links Page on the Suffolk RO site does include a link to the Suffolk FHS ( http://www.suffolkfhs.co.uk/index.html ), which seems to be working on Parish Register Marriage Indexes at present.

Mervyn

[jsphillips]

Thanks Mervyn
I will defiinitely try this