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Mystery placename

Post by Peter Collier » 20 Jan 2022 20:02

Can anyone decipher this Caernarfonshire placename from a 1911 census schedule? It looks to me something like "Ebewe..."? Perhaps a poor spelling of "Ebbw [something]"?
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Re: Mystery placename

Post by tatewise » 20 Jan 2022 20:13

I've moved this to the Research Forum as it is not an FH General Usage topic.
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Re: Mystery placename

Post by ColeValleyGirl » 20 Jan 2022 20:15

Are you familiar with List of Historic Place Names of Wales?

Could help you test hypotheses.

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Re: Mystery placename

Post by ColeValleyGirl » 20 Jan 2022 20:35

I agree with arthurk.

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Re: Mystery placename

Post by Gowermick » 21 Jan 2022 09:51

How about Abergele, located between Rhyl and Lluandudno.
It would be nice to see more of the image, to get a feel for author’s handwriting. Do you have previous census for individual, other birth places shown may give you a clue
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Re: Mystery placename

Post by mjashby » 21 Jan 2022 10:20

A village known as 'Ebenezer' was located the Parish of Llanddeiniolen, Caernarfonshire; and is now known as Deiniolen. Seems possible that the "original name" may have been locally adopted because of the Ebenezer Chapel located there.

See discussion thread at https://www.british-genealogy.com/forum ... er-Village

Edit: Also see http://www.heneb.co.uk/hlc/arfonthemes.html for a more authoritative description of the use of the village name:

"The adjacent villages of Clwt y Bont and Deiniolen were constructed on sites owned Rice William Thomas esq. and Robert William Griffith, a local farmer, sandwiched between Assheton-Smith’s slate road of 1812 and his original horse-drawn quarry railway, which opened in 1825. Though the villages reflect and preserve the course of both the road and of the railway, the houses in between are the work of speculators. Clwt y Bont was constructed in the period 1825-1835, partly by a builder from Llanbabo in Anglesey (hence the name Llanbabo by which the village was sometimes known and the gang-name ‘hogiau Llanbabs’ by which the young men of Clwt y Bont still go). Deiniolen grew up around Ebenezer chapel of c. 1824 (hence the old name ‘Ebenezer’ for the village) from around 1830. Unusually for a settlement built in an ad-hoc way, it is based around a grid-pattern of streets, apparently the result of deliberate policy. David Griffith’s Rhes Fawr (New Street), for instance, is known to date from between 1832 and 1838. A remarkable feature of this community is the substantial Anglican church on Vaynol land at some distance from the community itself, evidence perhaps of a failed attempt to win back the people of Deiniolen to the creed of their masters."

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