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Post by iconstab » 06 Jan 2012 13:02

In FH I treat family photographs (individuals or groups) as sources of information in themselves.  For example, an annotated and dated wedding group photo can be of great genealogical value.  But adding the citation for each person can take ages.
Would it be a fairly simple function to add on in AS (down the line)? Just date and title would be adequate.... I'd donate (more) good money for this !!

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Post by Jane » 06 Jan 2012 13:24

A photograph can be attached to a source and to people, why not simply use the standard link to faces tool to link it to people, you can report on people linked to media exactly as you can for sources.

Checking a Photograph will show all the people in it that way and you will be able to use the Multimedia report to get an overview of the image.
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Post by PeterR » 06 Jan 2012 14:52

A photograph (or other media) can also be linked directly to a Fact such as a Marriage, by  using the Show Media button on the Facts tab of the Property Box.
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Post by NickWalker » 06 Jan 2012 16:16

If I understand you correctly, you create a source, link an image to it, then link each individual to the source using a 'Whole person' citation?

I'm not sure whether this would be used very much (apart from by you!) - perhaps if others would find this useful it could be something I can look at in the future, but it won't be for a while.

I'd imagine most users would prefer to link an image directly to the people in it, as Jane suggests.

You are aware of the facility in FH to copy and paste citations? This would make it very quick to copy the citation to each of the people in the picture. Once the first citation is created you can click copy and then you could just find each person in the records window click on them and paste (Ctrl+V)
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Post by gerrynuk » 07 Jan 2012 10:37

Nick Walker said:
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I'm not sure whether this would be used very much (apart from by you!) -

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(Ctrl+V)
And me! It just seems natural to treat photos the same way as any other source material: census images, baptism register scans etc etc. It also means that all media are in a consistent relationship to the records they refer to; with their citations and information about the repository, where appropriate.

So, yes, I would also be interested in using AS to record photos. Or will the facility in FHv5 to add plugins allow another way of automating this?

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Post by iconstab » 07 Jan 2012 17:07

Thanks for the moral support, Gerry!
I just saw it as an obvious extension - in AS 'you take a census household / baptism / marriage / etc., and find/link all the individuals, and link the relevant image.'
So why not 'you take a family reunion / newspaper article / Uncle Fred's memoirs / the portrait gallery / oh all right, a generic event, and find/link all the individuals, and link to the relevant image'.
Perhaps it's a semantic thing, but isn't a photograph a source just as much as an entry in a parish register, rather than something you 'attach' to some (abstract?) source-thing?

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Post by NickWalker » 07 Jan 2012 17:36

Ian,

Can you answer the question from my earlier reply:
If I understand you correctly, you create a source, link an image to it, then link each individual to the source using a 'Whole person' citation?
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As I said, it might be something for the future, particularly if more people request it.

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Post by iconstab » 07 Jan 2012 17:47

Sorry - yes, in effect.
In just the same way as AS 'creates a census source' for me when I give it a year and a place and the people involved (and perhaps an image), I would like AS to be able to 'create a generic event source' when I give it a date and place and the people involved (and perhaps an image).
I started with the idea of photograph as source, but I see that it would be just as easy to make it 'generic event' as source with, as you say, whole person citations for everyone present / in the picture / mentioned in the will.

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