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[JoopvB]

Hi Nick,

Downloaded and installed your program and I am very impressed. You created a view on genealogy that (as I see it) every quality genealogy software should have built in: start with the source and work from there.

I live in The Netherlands and there we have lots of data (database records and images) online available. So I started creating a Dutch version of the birth certificate source entry. Most of the fields are self explanatory but I've run into one (small) problem. Usually the age of the informant/father is specified in the certificate, but I can't find where to enter it. Please enlighten me.

Another question: I have the (2) witnesses of the registration included with their occupation, age and relation to the informant/father. On the auto-text (great feature!, I have created my own - Dutch - model) only the names show up. How could I expand this to all the information entered?

Thanks, Joop

[JoopvB]

In addition to my previous post. The first question about the age; I had the "Age in residence" checked in the options window. After I unchecked it, I had fields to enter age and birthdate.

[tatewise]

I am sure Nick will have is own say, but I though few pointers might help.

Firstly have you discovered the Ancestral Sources Data Entry Plugin that integrates AS with FH?

I believe Nick has focussed on UK Certificates so extra data for other countries have not yet been considred.

Currently, I think the only place to enter the Informant's Age is on the Registration tab under Informant Description, which despite its dropdown list is in a free text field.

I tried changing that Age in Residence setting but could not see any difference or anywhere to enter Age. That setting is ony meant to affect the automatic entry of Age into any automatic Residence facts.

Witnesses should be handled on the Further Info tab by crerating FH V6 compatible Witness Roles and adding them as Associated Individuals. You will need to Edit the AS Associated Individual Template and create matching FH Witness Roles for the Birth Event.

[JoopvB]

Hi Mike,

Yes, I have your plugin installed; good work.

I hope Nick can expand the program a bit; it deserves to be used outside English speaking countries also. Anyhow, by just modifying the auto-text etc. I think I've come a long way (that is I've only done the birth certificate thus far). Then again if Nick is interested, I would gladly help with a whole Dutch set of certificate models to incorporate in the program.

About the Informant's age: I think you are right; I used the Fathers age (since in this case it was the father). Would be neat to have the same entry fields for every informant (especially since the field exists!).

Another thing that I've not yet found out how to. Usually the father will register the birth (= be the informant) and when everything has been put in this will create an event where the father gets mentioned as the Informant. In a narrative with say 14 children this gets pretty busy. So in in other software I was able to suppress these lines if the Informant was the father. Any ideas on how to do this in AS or AS/FH combined?

Thanks, Joop

[tatewise]

To inhibit the Informant Sentence the starting point is Tools > Fact Types for Birth Witness Roles. Initially there are no Birth Witness Roles and the Sentence you are seeing is a default.

I have Added the Role Name of Informant with Past Tense of Informant and Witness Sentence Template of {=Text("")}. Something must be entered, and with that function there will never be a Narrative Sentence produced.

Now the trick is to test if the Informant is Father of the Child so that the Sentence can be conditional. I am still thinking about that and perhaps needs to be a new posting thread... , but is compromised by the bug reported in Referring to the Fact Note in role sentences (12069).

As a last resort you can delete the Sentence Template in the Father's Birth Informant Fact to override the default. [After-thought: You cannot simply delete Sentence Template because that just reinstates it, so substitute {=Text("")} to inhibit the Sentence.]

[JoopvB]

Mike, you really are a serious resourceful guy! Thanks for the suggestions.