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Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 12:17
by Johnwrosser
I've amended the emigration fact for travel but now there is no fact for emigration! How daft is that. Can't someone make up facts for both or do I have to ask CP?

Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 12:49
by Jane
Rather than amending an existing fact, you should have created a custom fact for Travel.
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 12:51
by Mark1834
If you’ve amended the fact rather than copying it, why do you expect the old version to still be available…?
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 12:58
by ColeValleyGirl
To be fair, John has done something similar to what I do; I've repurposed the Immigration fact for 'Travelled' (to use the To and From Places) and retained the Emigration fact for 'genuine' emigrations. Although I find Travelled covers everything if supplemented with Notes to indicate whether this was just a journey between two places or an (intended) permanent relocation.
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 13:15
by neil40
John
This seems very similar to when you asked in this 'Travel' thread
https://www.fhug.org.uk/forum/viewtopic ... 32&t=21736
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 13:18
by tatewise
Mark, copying the fact does not work either because the copy uses the same standard GEDCOM code and will eclipse the original fact.
We discussed this topic at length with John in the
Travel (21736) thread earlier this year but it does not seem to have come to a conclusion because John did not respond to some of the questions.
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 14:56
by Johnwrosser
Nobody has given me an answer yet as to why there isn't specific 'facts' for travel and emigration?
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 15:11
by Jane
Family Historian provides a selection of Facts.
YOU need to create any other non standard facts such as Travel, by creating a custom fact.
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 22 Jun 2023 15:22
by tatewise
I think you are asking is: Can there be two specific facts for
Travel and
Emigration that both have a
Place field
and a
To field?
That was partly answered in the
Travel (21736) thread so here goes again.
The really short answer is that Calico Pie cannot predict every fact that every user might want so in the default facts there is no
Travel fact. You could contact Calico Pie and request them to provide one but that might take a long time.
The
Tools > Fact Types... command has the
Extended Set which offers the
Arrival and
Departure custom facts that are synonymous with
Travel but they only have one
Place field.
The
Emigration fact already exists with both a
Place field
and a
To field.
The
Immigration fact already exists with a
Place field
and a
From field.
You could rename that to be a
Travel fact but you would lose the
Immigration fact and when exported to another product would revert to being an
Immigration fact.
It was explained in the
Travel (21736) thread how a add a custom
To field in the
Note field to a custom
Travel fact.
See
Show Fact Fields in the Property Box.
Re: Emigration & Travel
Posted: 24 Jun 2023 10:53
by Johnwrosser
I think I've fixed it by editing the Immigration fact as I don't seem to use that.
