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cjdenbow wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2023 19:02

In the last few days I've had some email exchanges with John about the sentence renderings I was getting with my FH exports on my GedSite site. He was very helpful, and I was making progress, until he abruptly stopped, and told me to figure it out myself. I guess I asked too many dumb questions, or something.

What I wrote to you was, "It's time for you to work out some of these issues yourself." This was after we exchanged 50 email messages on this topic. As part of this process, I loaded your GEDCOM file, diagnosed the issue, and sent you a long reply that described several options for how to proceed. I believe I went far beyond what most other software authors/publishers would do to support a $25 product.

I recommended that you work out some of these issues yourself not because you "asked too many dumb questions". I did it because you were not paying attention to my answers. I explained the note/inline-note issue at least twice, and your reply to my latest explanation was to send me a URL to a discussion on this forum as if it was I who needed an education on the {note} / {inline-note} situation.

Similarly, I had to explain several times why I do not recommend using notes attached directly to a person. Despite that recommendation, I also told you how you could use them, if that was your decision: you can adjust the sentence template for the Note Fact to accommodate having the text in either {desc} or {inline-note}.

For those not familiar with GedSite, I should explain that GedSite provides several powerful facilities for configuring the output of Facts (events in GedSite terms). By treating a person note as a Fact, GedSite makes those facilities available to person notes. However, for GEDCOM files written by FH, the GedSite conversion of person notes means that the Note Fact sentence template applies to both the Note Fact and to person notes. For a Note Fact, the text is stored in the Note field and you insert it into a narrative with {note} or {inline-note}. For a person note, after GedSite's conversion, the text is stored in the Description field and you insert it into a narrative with {desc}. Using a sentence template that accommodates both should not be difficult.

JohnnyCee wrote: ↑

05 Apr 2023 14:10

cjdenbow wrote: ↑

01 Apr 2023 19:02

In the last few days I've had some email exchanges with John about the sentence renderings I was getting with my FH exports on my GedSite site. He was very helpful, and I was making progress, until he abruptly stopped, and told me to figure it out myself. I guess I asked too many dumb questions, or something.

What I wrote to you was, "It's time for you to work out some of these issues yourself." This was after we exchanged 50 email messages on this topic. As part of this process, I loaded your GEDCOM file, diagnosed the issue, and sent you a long reply that described several options for how to proceed. I believe I went far beyond what most other software authors/publishers would do to support a $25 product.

Any further discussion of GedSite support practices should be taken somewhere other than the FH forums.

I’m pleased to say that the issues described earlier have been resolved in v7.0.20. Specifically:

Replacing the sentence template with {note} no longer displays a spurious full stop before the sentence in the Property Box, and no longer results in incorrect spacing in a report.

Replacing the sentence with {inline-note} no longer adds an extra full stop in the report if there is already a full stop at the end of the note.

One very minor glitch is that if the Note starts with a lower case letter and the sentence template is either {note} or {inline-note} the sentence displayed in the Property box starts with a capital letter, but the one in the report starts with lower case, so they don’t match. However this is not an obstacle. (CP are aware.)

Unusually for me, I applied this update immediately since I had a couple of issues - or potential issues - where I had replaced the entire sentence by {note}. Amusingly, when I checked my sentences - after all my mutterings about what a "Note" was in sentence terms - I found a couple of facts where {inline-note} was appropriate!