* Infant & Juvenile Mortality

[PyreneesPirate]

Hello FH users,

I am dipping into the program again after a short while away. My last query was on changing Flags to Expressions so that I didn't lose the Icons attached to the individuals in the Diagrams / Charting option. Mike kindly sorted me out on that.

My current question is:

Can I use an expression (if that is what I need to use) to highlight / colour an individual's diagram box to signify an unforunate early death? If so, can it be ranged, say one colour for death 0-5 years old and another colour for 6-18 years old etc etc?

Would really appreciate a pointer on this please.

Many thanks
Pyrenees Pirate

[tatewise]

I assume you are talking about where an explicit Age is entered for the Death event, rather than a calculated age derived from the Birth and Death Dates.

It is very complex to cope with all possible Age values including Child, Infant, yrs mn dys, less than and greater than.

Just testing for Years needs the following two Expressions in the Boxes tab.
For 0 to 5 years: =IsTrue( TextToNumber(%INDI.DEAT.AGE%) <= 5 )
For 6 to 18 years: =IsTrue( (TextToNumber(%INDI.DEAT.AGE%) >= 6) and (TextToNumber(%INDI.DEAT.AGE%) <= 18) )

The first one also seems to include Child, Infant and Stillbirth.

However, coping with months, days, less than, and greater than becomes a major challenge!

[rogerdavies42]

You could try a workaround by creating custom flags for whatever ranges you choose, then setting them using the age at death query. You can then set diagram colours based on which flags are set

[Jean001]

I too 'colour-code' my diagram boxes to highlight age bands at death. I do not use the 'Age' box in facts, so I used the AgeAt function in the expression.

[tatewise]

Yes, the =AgeAt(...) function will work provided there is both a Birth event Date and a Death event Date defined in the data.

[PyreneesPirate]

Thank you very much to all that responded to my enquiry re ways to highlight early mortality rates.

I have been able to get this working via box / expressions facilty that was mentioned in the responses I have found one anomoly so far in that one child box was not following the pattern of all the others (no background colour) , age at Death was 18 months......so I changed it to show 1yr 6 months and that seemed to do the trick.

I am now considering going through my database to input the GRO basic registration data, i.e. Birth Qtr date, District etc, Death Qtr etc with a media link to a transcribed page (I haven't decided which source to choose yet). What is the easiest way of entering a GRO birth record through the system and attaching a media record? I am generally not a Source lumper but is it the best way for a GRO Birth record to be entered? Is the new source template for GRO Births another possibilty? I would like to standardise if possible. Any pointers would be a great help, before I have a go and mess it up.

Thanks again to all who responded, the support from FHUG never ceases to amaze me.

PP

[Jean001]

I am a splitter, so each birth, death and marriage (index reference, pdf/certificate) has its own source.

For GRO index listings I do not bother to download images of the pages, instead I copy the index reference to the source record (text from source). For birth and death records mostly I use the GRO Online Index.

I am still using generic sources, so cannot comment upon source templates.

I enter all information directly into FH (i.e. not using Ancestral Sources). I have tried out AS (and was happy with the process) but overall I prefer to be very 'hands-on' with the data (it sticks in my mind better that way).

This is one way of working, there are others. I like that FH enables us to adapt the process to suit our own way of working.

[LornaCraig]

You asked about “the new source template for GRO Births”. If you are referring to the Civil Registration Index template it is intended to create one source record per index, so it is for ‘lumped’ sources. On the other hand the Civil Registration Certificate template is, as the name suggests, for certificates/images which contain of the full registration details. It is for creating 'splitter' sources.

You need to consider whether you really want to save images for GRO references. A splitter approach means an image can be attached to the source record itself, while a lumper approach means that you have to be careful to attach the image to the citation, not the source. Many people use a mixture of ‘splitter’ and ‘lumper’ sources, depending on whether they want to save an image of the source.

Personally I don’t save images from indexes, so I have one ‘lumped’ source (generic) for each of the three GRO indexes. Each of these has hundreds of citations, with the index references recorded in the citations. Some people put the reference in the Text from Source field of the citation, some put it in the Where Within field (in generic style sources).

If and when I obtain an image or certificate for the full BMD record I create a ‘split’ source for it and attach the image to the Source record.

[NickWalker]

Personally I don’t save images from indexes, so I have one ‘lumped’ source (generic) for each of the three GRO indexes. Each of these has hundreds of citations, with the index references recorded in the citations. Some people put the reference in the Text from Source field of the citation, some put it in the Where Within field (in generic style sources).

If and when I obtain an image or certificate for the full BMD record I create a ‘split’ source for it and attach the image to the Source record.

I do exactly as Lorna describes. I really don't see any benefit of keeping an image of a web page showing a short reference number: it doesn't 'feel' like an historic source in the same way that a birth certificate does and gives no additional information. I just create the birth/marriage/death fact, link it to a GRO index source and type the reference into the local note field for convenience (but in the citation would be the 'more correct' way to do this). When I do obtain a certificate (or parish record for marriage) I then add that using Ancestral Sources as a method 1 (splitter) source linked to the various facts, occupations, residences, etc. that are generated for that source.

Best wishes

Nick

[PyreneesPirate]

Hello and many thanks for your responses. All very interesting and I shall integrate your ideas into my operation.

One question: I am currently trying to use a single source template with many citations as mentioned above which seems to be working. I have used the Civil Registration Index Template to record a Death, but in the Citation Specific Details there doesn't appear to be a field for 'Age at Death'. Is there a reason why this isn't in the Citation template for A GRO Death entry

I am sure there is a perfectly good reason for this.....I have tried the Customize Citation Window but everything seems to be greyed out

Many thanks,
PP

[victor]

As others have said I don't save indexes.
Ancestry sometime lists the BMD reference details of a person and I save that detail by taking a screen shot (year Quarter Vol and Page No) and copying it to the person it refers to. I find this better than using the tool bar

Victor

[ColeValleyGirl]

I have used the Civil Registration Index Template to record a Death, but in the Citation Specific Details there doesn't appear to be a field for 'Age at Death'. Is there a reason why this isn't in the Citation template for A GRO Death entry

That template is used for all GRO indices (BM and D) and Age at Death isn't a field common across all of them. YOu could include it in Text from Source in the Citation.

The reason you can't customise it is that Standard Source Templates are read only. You could clone it and edit the copy if you want something specific for Death.