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Marriage Bonds

Posted: 07 Sep 2021 13:48
by janefrances
I'm in the process of adding the above to FH. As I don't have the allegation and just the bond, the only Fact types I could see are for the Marriage Allegation or Marriage Contract. I don't really want to use a custom fact.

I thought another way would be to just attach the bond as a source to the marriage fact. Just wondering what would be the best way to go about this? Many thanks :roll:

Re: Marriage Bonds

Posted: 07 Sep 2021 14:31
by tatewise
According to https://www.york.ac.uk/media/borthwick/ ... ebonds.pdf both the allegation and the bond are associated with a Marriage Licence, so perhaps use that standard event.

BTW: There is no standard event for a Marriage Allegation.

Re: Marriage Bonds

Posted: 07 Sep 2021 14:32
by AdrianBruce
Firstly I would say that a Marriage Contract, as I understand it, is a completely different beast. A Contract would be a legal agreement between the families of the two parties that the marriage would take place - it might cover things like dowry and how the wife-to-be will be supported should her husband die before her.

Having said that, my own prompt notes describe dowry and support-if-widowed as Marriage Settlement. I don't think I've ever used a Marriage Contract fact but maybe some contracts include settlements as well????

I don't actually see a Fact-Type of Marriage Allegation in my list, so unless I've hidden it deeply, I'm not sure what to do about those.

What I do is this... The Bond and Allegation (at least in England & Wales) are part of the process of obtaining a Marriage Licence. Conventional widom is that we virtually never see the actual licences but that was the point of creating the Bond and Allegation. Therefore the Fact Type that I use is Marriage License. That will have several possible different source-records cited against it - one source-record might be the Bond, another the Allegation or a third might be an entry in the Marriage Licence Act Books.

Re: Marriage Bonds

Posted: 07 Sep 2021 14:50
by AdrianBruce
AdrianBruce wrote:
07 Sep 2021 14:32
... I don't think I've ever used a Marriage Contract fact ...
I've just checked and no, I have no current use of Marriage Contract events. I do have Marriage Settlement events in relation to Church of Ireland marriages where there are agreements how the bride-to-be will be supported if her husband predeceases her - these appear in the (rather wonderful if difficult) Registry of Deeds in Dublin.

I think in the past that I have used all sorts of event types for Church of Scotland marriages because quite often there is no record of the actual marriage itself - only the couple having given their names in for marriage, which would lead to the calling of the banns. However, I appear to have updated them all to Marriage Banns or Marriage events now.

Re: Marriage Bonds

Posted: 07 Sep 2021 17:42
by janefrances
Oops Sorry! the Marriage allegation is my custom fact. Apologies for the confusion. :oops:

Thank you both for your help. I'm going to use the standard Marriage License fact and link my source to that.