* Narrative Report Marriage Details

[RS3100]

I am seeing the same issue as Private Fact Flag not working when creating Website (19558) but with a report, where I have set the private flag for two facts that I wished to suppress (v7.0.7) Both facts still appear although I have "Hide all private facts (where the "Private" flag is set)" enabled in the report options, and unlike the reported issue with the website wizard the option remains ticked after the report has been generated. Nevertheless the setting is being ignored.

Can anyone else confirm this? I assume it may require a separate bug report?

[tatewise]

So this is nothing to do with publishing a website but just producing a standalone Report.
I cannot repeat those symptoms with an Individual Summary Report, Family Group Sheet or Individual Narrative Report.
Please can you provide more details and a screenshot or two showing the Facts tab with the Flag set and the Report.

[RS3100]

Thanks Mike.

It may be another issue or a misunderstanding on my part then. As may be clearer from the attached image of the individual's facts tab, I am trying to prevent all the facts after 1911 from being separately mentioned in an individual narrative report, as I have created a free text note that includes them all, but in a way which allows the reader to follow the trail of facts proving that they all relate to the same individual - something that is not otherwise clear without reference to the original source records supporting each fact. The note is attached to the custom fact "What happened to Annie Alice STOKES" (aft 1911).

Suppressing the fact sentences for the subsequent Residence, Census and Occupation facts removes any mention of them in the narrative report, other than within my free form note, which is my intent. But I cannot completely remove references to the two marriage facts. If I suppress the fact sentences, both marriages still appear in the report in an abbreviated form, e.g. "Annie married George Daniel BRIDGE. She married Bertie THOROGOOD." immediately following the text of my note.

So I thought that by setting the private flag on both marriage facts, and ticking the option to "Hide all private facts (where the "Private" flag is set)" in the Report Options dialogue, that they would no longer appear in the report at all, but the abbreviated sentences still appear in exactly the same form as when the sentences are simply suppressed, as in the second attachment.

So it seems to me that neither flagging either or both marriages private, or suppressing their fact sentences, is having the desired affect of excluding any mention of them from the report. Might that be because they are shared facts? I guess the way around it is to split my single note into several custom sentences attached to each of the relevant facts.

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[tatewise]

I've created a new thread for this issue as it is totally unrelated to the website issue.

You don't need the Private Fact Flags, just inhibit the Marriage events as you planned originally.

The sentence you are seeing is generated because the Marriage event is 'missing' and that automatic sentence is governed by the Report > Options > Main tab setting for Auto-Generate Sentences for Missing Facts which you should untick and I think will solve your problem.

[RS3100]

Thanks Mike, you are right. Disabling "Auto-Generate Sentences for Missing Facts" has resolved it.

[tatewise]

The message to take away is to ask for advice about the original objectives and not problems with the perceived solution.
In this case, there is no problem with inhibiting fact sentences by various methods, and the scenario only applies to Narrative Reports rather than reports in general.

[RS3100]

Whilst you are quite right in saying that, the (mis)connection arose because, having perceived that the private fact flag did not seem to be working as I expected, I initially searched the forum for any threads on similar issues rather than jumping straight into composing a new thread that might have been totally unnecessary, by repeating something that might already have been answered. The search returned several matches to the thread I initially posted in, which described what seemed to be a similar although not identical scenario, was little more than a week old, and unresolved.

Perhaps I should have just posted without attempting to minimise forum resources, but having been misdirected by the search result I obviously ended up being unable to do right for doing wrong! I did ask if anyone else could confirm what I thought I was seeing, rather than jumping to conclusions

[tatewise]

But the key statement is: "So I thought that by setting the private flag on both marriage facts, and ticking the option to "Hide all private facts (where the "Private" flag is set)" in the Report Options dialogue, that they would no longer appear in the report at all, but the abbreviated sentences still appear in exactly the same form as when the sentences are simply suppressed, as in the second attachment."
The sentence suppression was "exactly the same" via the two related methods.
So why look for a problem with the Fact Private Flag and not with the Exclude List option, especially since the 'sentence' bears no similarity with the Marriage Sentence Template so cannot possibly come from the fact?
A few more experiments with other facts and other reports would have shown both methods worked OK.

[RS3100]

Mike, I am not as proficient as you with the workings of FHG, nor it's many settings, which may just be why I asked for help?

Having said that, I have reported bugs to CP and demonstrated them to their satisfaction after they were unable to replicate them, so I don't think I am completely clueless.

I found a problem. After messing about with various options for much of the day I was no better informed, so I searched the forum. A recent topic describing what I perceived to be a similar problem was linked to the top several results of that search. Whilst I realised the topic related to generating websites it didn't appear to me to be unreasonable to assume that whatever algorithm is inside the program for determining the behaviour of fact flags when generating a website page might also behave similarly when generating a report. So I asked for help.

I thought that was one of the purposes of this forum. Let's leave it there, shall we?

[ColeValleyGirl]

You're absolutely correct about the purpose of this user group. It's to help people who ask for help however they phrase it and whatever they may or may not understand. And we've all led ourselves astray thinking we're looking in the right ballpark for a problem/solution when we're barking completely up the wrong tree.

Keep on asking, everyone! The only stupid question is the one you don't ask but should.

And now I'll stop lecturing. It's never welcome.