Family Historian User Group

Helen, don' shoot the messenger!

Jim, if you wish to retain essentially generic Source records, you can keep all the generic Source fields and compose a Title Format using just generic fields to standardise the Source Title similar to AS but for source types it does not support.
In custom Source Templates, just use the codes such as {%AUTH%} and {%REFN%} instead of the metafield code names, and don't define any metafields at all.

tatewise wrote: ↑

29 May 2021 16:24

The Place field of each Fact can have its own Source Citation and FH allows them to be added via the All tab.
Expand the Fact then right-click the Place field and Add Source.

Sorry Miketate, but this is incorrect.
I have just experimented with a birth Fact, using 1939 census as a source.
I used the "All" tab, and expanded the Birth fact into Date and Place fields and tried to assign a source to the Date field, but found the source actually gets added to the Birth itself, NOT the Date field.

i.e. Any source added to a field of an expanded Fact, gets added to the Fact itself, not the field.

Please read my text that you quoted. It is correct. It says nothing about the Date field, only the Place field.
If you repeat the exercise, but use the Place field, then the Source gets assigned to the Place and NOT the Birth Event.

Furthermore, if the fact has a local Note field then a Source can be added to that too.

Gowermick wrote: ↑

01 Jun 2021 08:52

Any source added to a field of an expanded Fact, gets added to the Fact itself, not the field.

That is incorrect as far as the Place and Note fields of an expanded Fact are concerned.

I stand corrected, but my original gripe was that I couldn’t source both a date and a place separately.

I was thinking specifically of the 1939 register, which can be a source for a birth date, but not the birthplace, which isn’t on the register.

EDIT:
I have just revisited the Birth Fact, and you cannot specifically source either Date or Place, as I originally stated.

Even If you expand the birth fact, the Sources For: pane still just shows Birth*, there is no option to select either Date or Place

Am I missing something?

Mike L, if you include a rich text note for the fact, you can source elements of the note individually using embedded citations. So you could use that to show which of your citations for the fact apply to which pieces of information.

ColeValleyGirl wrote: ↑

01 Jun 2021 10:24

Mike L, if you include a rich text note for the fact, you can source elements of the note individually using embedded citations. So you could use that to show which of your citations for the fact apply to which pieces of information.

Helen, I daresay there are lots of ways around the shortcomings of GEDCOM, but whichever way you choose to achieve it, the shortcoming remains! I'll live with it as it is, as I have done for the past 20 years