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Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by vikingalchemy » 20 Jan 2021 14:41

I realise everyone is probably still getting to grips with v7 but does anyone know if there is a template suitable for the above.

Writing my own is a bit beyond me time wise at the moment.

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Re: Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by LornaCraig » 20 Jan 2021 15:43

Do you ever use Ancestral Sources to enter data? Nick Walker has updated it to work with FH v7, and has extended the 'Census' type of entry to include Electoral Registers for the UK.
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Post by vikingalchemy » 20 Jan 2021 16:34

I never got round to using that. I had thought that v7 would make much of the AS stuff redundant with the template's feature but I fear not.

Maybe I should give it a try. The electoral register feature in AS seems exactly what I'm after.

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Post by NickWalker » 20 Jan 2021 21:26

Please don't be sorry that FH7 doesn't make my software redundant! :cry:
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Post by vikingalchemy » 21 Jan 2021 15:40

:D Sorry Nick. I appreciate it must be a labour of love and very helpful for many. Its just that I have only recently got my head around using FH software (still a way to go yet) and I am reluctant to start learning yet another method of doing things if I can get away with it! I must make time to at least give it a try. :D

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Post by tatewise » 21 Jan 2021 16:26

In order to appreciate the benefits of AS, it is necessary to understand the principles of FH.
AS is simply a more convenient way of achieving what you can achieve manually in FH.
You need to understand FH Source Citation structures to find what AS creates for you.
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Re: Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by vikingalchemy » 22 Jan 2021 18:01

You need to understand FH Source Citation structures to find what AS creates for you.

Does that mean you need to understand the way they are programmed (HTML I presume). Is it possible to achieve that by reading through the user help literature or does it need more in depth technical knowledge?

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Post by tatewise » 22 Jan 2021 18:11

No, you don't need anything as technical as that (it certainly isn't HTML which is only used in websites).

You simply need to be familiar with the way FH adds Facts and Citations and Source records and links them together.
I'm just talking about the normal user interface tools, commands, and options ~ nothing deeply technical.
There are good examples in the Family Historian Sample Project and you can practice there with both FH and AS.

If you don't understand those principles, and just leap in and use AS, you may not appreciate some of the options that AS provides and you may not discover where AS has added details in FH.

For example, it took a while in the Witness Entries - More Detail? (17709) discussion for you to understand the Fact Witness and Source Citation features of FH. AS can use all those features when capturing Census and BMD source documents.
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Re: Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by NickWalker » 22 Jan 2021 18:21

AS will create sources and citations and you don't necessarily have to really understand all that. Further down the line when users get theirs head around all that they can be pleasantly suprised to find out what AS has been doing for them! :)
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Re: Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by tatewise » 22 Jan 2021 22:03

I'm not sure I entirely agree, Nick.
If the user is not familiar with the FH features used by AS how can they choose the appropriate Tools > Options settings, Source Template options, Rich Text settings, Title Templates, and Associated Individual options, etc?
They could capture a lot of data only to discover it is not organised the way they would prefer and have to repeat it all.
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Re: Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by NickWalker » 22 Jan 2021 22:27

Yes but the alternative is they don't use AS and just enter the data without sources, etc. The default settings are not a bad starting point. I also assume they will work out what's happening with sources etc before too many entries have been made. If they're expected to fully understand first, they might never bother trying. But I don't totally disagree with you either, I just dont want people to be put off by feeling they have to understand everything first.
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Re: Template for Electoral Register UK

Post by vikingalchemy » 23 Jan 2021 15:51

Thanks for the replies.

I think the best way forward is for me to give it a try in the sample project and see how it goes.

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