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Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 17:24
by Billread
Hi
Looked through other posts, but not come across answers to this specifically.

I have been using diagrams a fair bit the last days. I have opened the standard list of options for boxes, and have used the Name, dates, how related to chart root without issue, But the Name, dates and how related to file root doesn't put the relationships in the Text boxes? I have tried this on both my computers, and several gedcoms.

Also I probably may need to learn how to make a new scheme ( never done so before, is it easy,), but is there an easy/ quick way to visually mark, ( or better maybe Add one word in the text ) or make a specific selection of boxes stand out from the rest ( perhaps colour change just selected boxes?).
many thanks
Bill

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 18:32
by tatewise
Hi Bill.

You probably have not got the File Root defined, or the File Root has no relationship to anyone in the Diagram.

If you use Edit > File Root is Clear File Root greyed out?
If so then you have no File Root set.
Bring the person you want to be File Root into the Focus Window.
Right-click their box in the Focus Window and choose Make File Root. That should reveal relationships in Diagrams.

The easiest way to create a custom Text Scheme is on the Diagram > Options > Text tab.
Select a Text Scheme similar to what you want and click the Clone button.
Enter a New Scheme Name, click OK, and you are ready to customise it.

There are many ways to customise any particular boxes to stand out from the rest.
The first thing to decide is what criteria to use to govern the customisation.

If it is an arbitrary manual selection of boxes, then hold down the Ctrl key while you click on the boxes you want.
Then right-click in any one of those boxes and choose Format.
In the Override Box Features dialogue you can set whatever features you want applied to that selection of boxes.
Remember, that customisation will be lost unless you use Diagram > Save Diagram as an FH Chart, or save it to file, or print it to paper.

For more permanent customisation you can edit a Text Scheme item to be governed by a record Flag condition.

Also, on the Diagram > Options > Boxes tab you can add Conditions that govern similar box features to the Format customisation described above.

You can use the Family Connection Mapper tool to highlight the routes between related Indiviudals in the Diagram.

Give us some clues as to what criteria and what highlighting you would like, and we can talk you through the process.

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 19:02
by Billread
Ok Mike thanks. I am about to watch a webinar, will look after, and play around, and get back to you. What I wanted to do was build a chart/file to output a jpeg or similar with those family lines in that I have the RAW DNa of, and show their links to myself, so can print as a chart, showing or saying I have the RAW, their name, DAtes, and Relationship to myself, as i have been doing some work with Kevin Borland of Borland Genetics, and He will help me organise a workflow from the 30-35 RAw files I have using the tree and links I provide. I was cutting someone elses part related ged around to do this.

I know a couple of plugins exist for DNa bits, but doe sFH have the capacity to store DNa data as wlel other than notes ? and so can be used. I thought I had seen another program claiming such?
thanks back soon
Bill

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 19:34
by tatewise
FH can record whatever data you wish on almost any topic including DNA Results.

Jane has an article giving advice that several users had adopted: Recording DNA Matches in Family Historian.
It suggests a GEDMATCH custom fact for capturing DNA Results and Diagrams with DNA Helix icons.

The concepts are discussed in Expression in DNA Charts? (17536) which also has a download file with a couple of DNA Helix icons.

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 19:49
by Billread
Great, I will look at the dna posts. Thanks :D

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 22:50
by Billread
Hi I'm back, it was only a short webinar.

I reset the file root person and ok now. Thanks. Have noted what you said and the bits on custom text boxes, and will need try it.

But please comment on following as to easiest, and there is an additional small issue at the end

to show simply the people whose dna I have and the interelationships. i had thought I could put say 'HAVE RAW' in a note, but as there are many Note fields, unsure which is best to use, or perhaps use another specific field and enter it there? Then electing to show NAme. Dates, Notes, relationship might have worked. Using a modified text option as although there is one close option there isnt one with relationship and notes. ( I should say This is coming from a Gedcom I have modified to show just MAin Lines, and people/links who have DNa matched, or I have the RAW dna files, AND I have cleaned all the note fields and taken out most information not needed) The Ged is to be used to upload with places like Ancestry, Ft dna, My heritage etc.

I also thought a quick way to colour code the boxes as well of those I have RAW dna data from would be useful as well on a diagram, as quick to see.

I realise its not exactly related to this subject, so could raise as a separate post if you prefer? but it affects the resultant Ged which I use especially on Ancestry . As on one Ancestry upload I found that due to work from my deceased cousin, and mistakes of my own, or imported ged sections, that not all people in my ged have Place/Address information in the correct places ( we all had different ideas, but recently realised how important it is to get right, as it affects a great many things). SO as there is no ENGLAND on many addresses my Ancestors apparently come from all sorts of weird addresses in the US and other places.

So I read all I could find on the user Group, and notes this issue has been raised many times, and I found my way round merging places etc and how to get to the entries. But in the past others had asked if there was a quick way to select parts of places and move to addresss, or vice versa, but it looks like a way to do multiple entries easily ( for simple folks like myself) was never carried out. And I do see that this is a complex area, with , delimination and lots of options.

So it would take me ages ( in small doses) to go through my 15 or so varying geds and do the housekeeping that is so badly needed. But is there a way to easily add England to the end of ALL address fields in a smallish ged like this that has maybe 300 entries rather than do individually?

many thanks again
Bill

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 04 Jun 2020 23:00
by Billread
Hi again
I have played with most of what you suggested and its great thanks. The only thing I looked at that unsure of is how to create my own Text Box Scheme. I saw I could copy the 2 entries of Name. dates, how related , and modify the copy by adding Notes, or whichever field you thought best to enter my note of ' HAVE RAW' or 'HAVE ACCESS TO ON GEDMATCH' in? a little advice on that would be helpful.
If I select an item on the left to > to the right, is it written in as needed, or do i need type/add anything in manually.?
last
In case its not just in my copy, I noted while playing with this that in the available items column I have Bar Mitzvah, and Bat Mitsvah, I have never played here before so not me, is it something that shouldnt be there?

Thanks for help so far
Bill

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 05 Jun 2020 13:02
by tatewise
The customising of Diagrams and Text Schemes can become quite complicated.
FH provides lots of options and advanced expressions that let you do almost anything you are likely to need.
Please spend some time experimenting and reading up the Help available on each Help button in each dialogue.
You need to understand the basics of Data References such as %INDI.BIRT% refers to a Birth event.

You need to decide how you want to record the DNA information.
You could put it in the Note box on the Main tab of the Property Box.
All other Note boxes are associated with a Fact so which Fact are you proposing to use?
That is where the custom GEDMATCH fact discussed in Jane's article comes into play.

Only when you have decided where to put the DNA data can the Text Scheme be designed to list it in a box.

Bar Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah are standard GEDCOM facts for the initiation ceremony of a Jewish boy or girl.
They also are listed in Tools > Fact Types and every other list of Facts.

Regarding your Place & Address problem with England missing, please start another discussion thread.

Re: Text Boxes in a Diagram

Posted: 05 Jun 2020 18:57
by Billread
Ok I will play thanks again. I cannot ever recollect hearing Bat Mizvah!! New one on me! If need help I will ask again. Bill