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Issues with Source Citations

Posted: 22 Jul 2018 12:18
by loulou330
Hi

I'm currently adding new source citations and have notice that although I do not have the automatic source citation option checked, all the source citations are updating to the 'new' citation.

I am using the most recent version of 6.2.7

It is difficult to put into words so the following is an example

Created a new source for some mobile phone footage for one particular media file.

Above in the same list is some cine footage already cited as 'cine file - Mr X' - when I added the above mobile phone footage citation the cine film citation updated to mobile phone.

It is all very frustrating and it goes round in a loop

Many thanks,


Louise

Re: Issues with Source Citations

Posted: 22 Jul 2018 13:22
by tatewise
I am afraid your description is not very clear. You are using terms such as source, citation, media & footage almost interchangeably, so I don't understand exactly what is getting upset.

It sounds like you are creating a new Source record that on its Media tab is linked to a Media record, which links to a mobile phone media file (presumably some sort of video format). It is not clear whether a Fact has a Citation of that Source record.

It is unclear exactly what is changing as a side effect.
You say "Above in the same list", but is that the list of Source records, or the list of Citations in a yellow Sources For pane, or something else?

Please post a screenshot to make it clearer, as explained in info:forums#posting_topics|> Posting Topics.
Perhaps a before and after of the undesired change.

Re: Issues with Source Citations

Posted: 30 Jul 2018 12:32
by loulou330
Hi,

I hope the following points can make what's happening a little clearer

Point 1 : shows the media file 'Sheila & Sean...' (highlighted blue) with the 'source' tab clear

Point 2 : shows the the media file 'Sheila & Sean..' (highlighted blue) with the 'source' now populated with 'Cine - Mr Conroy'

Point 3 : shows that the .jeg file 'John & Marilyn....', located above 'Sheila & Sean...' which does not have the same source but which has now had its source wiped and replaced with the source entitled 'Cine - Mr Conroy'.

This is not a problem I have encountered before in the many years I have been using this wonderful tool.

I hope that my problem now makes sense and that someone can point me in the right direction please.

Re: Issues with Source Citations

Posted: 30 Jul 2018 13:16
by tatewise
So your screenshots show an Individual record Media tab with lots of linked Media records.

It is NOT possible to add a Source Citation for any specific highlighted Media record.
So I suspect this is the first time you have tried to do that.

As indicated in the Sources For box, the Cine film - Mr Conroy is cited against the <whole record>, which means the whole Individual record, NOT any specific Media record.

So it does not matter which Media record you select, the <whole record> citation against the Individual is always the same.

I suspect the citation you thought was against the John & Marilyn.... jpeg had a different Sources For identification referring to some other entity such as a Fact.
If you click on the down arrow drop-list to the right of the Sources For box all the entities with an asterisk * have a citation.

Please post a screenshot of the John & Marilyn.... jpeg showing its Sources For citation before adding Cine film - Mr Conroy.