* Deleting temp file

[philmcleod]

After running an export of my gedcom with embedded media I see there appears to be a large .tmp file created in Family Tree\Public folder.
Am I correct to presume that this can be deleted

[tatewise]

When you say an export of your GEDCOM with embedded media, what exactly do you mean?

FH File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File or the Export Gedcom File Plugin?
Where did you choose to export the GEDCOM, i.e. which folder?
Also what do you mean by 'embedded media' as it can have a very special GEDCOM meaning.

What is the Date on the .tmp file and what is its filename?
Is the Date about the same time as the export?

I don't think any of the export GEDCOM processess create .tmp files in the Public folder.

FH sometimes creates a .tmp file when things go awry, and it contains important recovery data.
So it may need further inestigation.
I am not going to say it is OK to delete without more details.

[philmcleod]

File was created by using File\Import/Export\Export\Gedcom File and with Media Records drop down set for Embed Media Records in Export File. This was requested by My-History who are investigating doing some large chart printing.
The file was exported to the default location and I found the file in my McLeod Family Tree\Public Folder
The file name is -1413.tmp and has a date & time created of about 10 mins before the gedcom file time stamp. Because my gedcom with embedded media was very large as I have loads of media, the first attempt I aborted after about 10 mins, so it may have been created then. When I tried again later, I let it run longer. However the gedcom with media file is over 5GB
The size of the -1413.tmp file is 10.7 GB

[tatewise]

Yes, that will be the cancelled exported GEDCOM file.
I did much the same and got a ~fh5F2E.tmp file.
It can be safely deleted.

[philmcleod]

Thanks. As a matter of interest, as exported gedcom files are created in the public folder, I presume the live gedcom file is the one in my McLeod Family Tree.fh_data folder. Just so I know never to touch it.
Also, is the easiest way of creating an exported gedcom with selected media only for only the branch that is needed for a particular chart For example a gedcom with media that is only for my ancestors, not my wifes.

[Jane]

Yes the one in _fh_data is the main one.

What I normally do is export the gedcom and then create a Project from it. When created all the linked media will get copied to the New Project folder. This is simplest if you are sending the Project to a specialist like My History to print it, you can exclude source records from the export, which will help keep the size down if you have lots of media attached to sources.

Additionally Mike has a plugin which can do an export with media for various destinations.
http://www.family-historian.co.uk/plugi ... try?id=522

[philmcleod]

Thanks. Will Mikes plug in help reduce size of the gedcom file which is currently 5.2 GB or 3.4 GB if zipped, as My-History web upload will not accept a single file so large

[tatewise]

Phil, normally GEDCOM files are not that large, because the Media image files are stored externally.

You say that http://www.my-history.co.uk/ specifically requested GEDCOM Embedded Media.
So it is all those Embedded Media files incorporated into the GEDCOM file that makes it so large.

Their advice in http://www.my-history.co.uk/Extra_Info/ ... torian.pdf makes no mention of embedding Media and specifically says you can send just the Project GEDCOM file, but unless you also send some Media files too, your printed chart will have no photos.
However, the printed chart will only require the Media photos attached to Individual records.
Many records are not required in order to create charts, so tick all the Exclude options in the Export GEDCOM dialogue.
That will exclude all Media records and document image files associated with the excluded Source records.
Also if you only want a chart for part of your family you can Select... just the Individual records required.
e.g. Select yourself and choose Add Relatives > Ancestors for just direct line ancestors (no aunts, uncles, cousins, etc).
There are other techniques for selecting the Individuals you require ~ just ask.
That may produce an Embedded Media GEDCOM file small enough to upload, or you may have to use some other form of communication such as USB pen-drive memory stick, or cloud storage such as Dropbox, OneDrive, or Google Drive.

Having said all that, if you can produce the Diagram you need as a PDF file, almost any local printing company will print that for you on large size paper. See how_to:creating_a_single_page_pdf_of_a_diagram|> Single Page PDF of a Diagram for advice.

Finally, my Export Gedcom File Plugin, that Jane mentioned, does not help in this scenario.

[philmcleod]

Thanks Mike, your comments will be useful. The only reason I was sending it to My-History was that they specifically asked for embedded media files as my longest charts cannot be saved as single page pdf in FH as they are over the 10ft pdf support limit. Saving them as pdf just creates a mixed up chart on screen and a multiple page pdf.
I only have 2 of these long charts (over 3 m) so I should be able to produce 2 different gedcoms each with just the start person and their ancestors or descendants.
As for local printers I have enquired locally in Torbay but not found anyone interested.
I have been slowly plodding through the 300 + charts that I want to have (a chart that will show relationships for each person) and making them scaled to 70% or more to get them to fit as single page pdfs. About 180 will fit A4 so I can print myself and there are about 120 that will fit A4 in height but require longer paper. There are just the 2 that will be over 3 m (even scaled to 70%)
It keeps the brain cells active!

[philmcleod]

Mike,
Sorry, I may be missing something but you mentioned "Select yourself and choose Add Relatives > Ancestors for just direct line ancestors" but I cannot see this option in either the FH export process or you plugin.
What I am trying to do is select my great x 3 grandfather and then get a chart with all his descendants. I have the chart but looking to get a edited gedcom

[LornaCraig]

Use File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM file . Then click Select.. just to the right of the Individual Records box. In the Select Records window choose your greatx3 granfather and click the > symbol to show him to the right hand panel. Then click Add Relatives at the bottom and choose Descendants. You can then choose how many generations, and whether you want to include spouses.

[tatewise]

Firstly, have you read how_to:creating_a_single_page_pdf_of_a_diagram|> Single Page PDF of a Diagram?
That claims that your 10' or 3m chart can easily fit in a PDF page that supports up to 16' and 5m.
Even the FH PDF supports slightly greater than 10' and 3m but may need some careful adjustment.

Then you could send the PDF to My History.

The select Individuals options are via the Select button as I said, and Lorna says.

BUT you must NOT add your greatx3 grandfather to the right-hand pane before selecting Add Relatives > Descendants.
He will get added when you choose Descendants.

[philmcleod]

My longest charts are actually 4.8 m & 5.3 m even after scaling to 70%, so saving as pdf in FH makes them at least 2 pages. I have played around with options but not yet got them onto single page.

[tatewise]

Phil, I beg you to read how_to:creating_a_single_page_pdf_of_a_diagram|> Single Page PDF of a Diagram thoroughly and if necessary use Cute PDF or PDF 995 that I reiterate support up to 16' and 5m.
So your 4.8 m should fit and 5.3 m only needs slight adjustment to fit.

Try adjusting some Diagram > Options > Dimensions and More Dimensions to reduce vertical spacing.

[philmcleod]

Mike, I had read "Knowledge Base > Single Page PDF of a Diagram", but effectively it seems you are saying to install a pdf writer that can allow a page bigger than the 3.2 m approx. of FH. Alternatively I know I can adjust the scaling to about 35% and other dimensions which would put the diagram on a single page of a size allowed by FH, but who ever printed it would then need to upscale it again and it would possibly lose clarity.
Thanks for your help as I now how some further options to discuss with My-History or other printers