* Printing a simple landscape tree

[Saltrams]

Hello everyone.
I am currently using v6.2.5. However, I have used everything from v4 in the past and although I used to be quite familiar with FH, I had to take a 5 year break from all family history related activity (real life got in the way ). I'm cross about how much I have forgotten. I now want to reproduce this diagram but I've exhausted all the ways I can think of to achieve it. Could anyone tell me how to do it please? Thank you!

[tatewise]

Welcome back to the FHUG.
That is not a tree diagram that I recognise as a Standard FH Diagram nor as any of the fhugdownloads:diagramtypes|> Downloads and Links ~ Diagram Types.

If it was produced by FH, then it is a heavily customised Ancestor Diagram, but there are elements of your screenshot that I don't think FH can produce. Maybe it was produced by exporting your FH GEDCOM to another product to produce the tree.

If it is one that you customised when using FH V4 then it may still exist in View > Custom Diagram Types.

Maybe someone else can give you better clues.

BTW: Did you upgrade to FH V6.2 on the same PC that originally had FH V4 and so automatically inherited all your data?

[Saltrams]

Thank you for the welcome! It's great, albeit frustrating, to be back with the research.

I was beginning to hope that I had produced it from other software I have since discarded and forgotten. At least that would mean I'm not completely hopeless with FH! No, I didn't make a smooth transition from an old PC so although I make sure to keep files backed up, software settings won't be the same.

I think I will accept your confirmation & stop looking now. Thank you again for taking the trouble to reply.

[tatewise]

Is it too late to use the how_to:family_historian_migration_guide|> Family Historian V5 & V6 Migration Guide?

[AdrianBruce]

Could it have been done in some non-genealogy software, using a blank template type of file intended to be used to produce such a chart? In MS Word, say, or even MS Excel? (Or whatever your word-processor, spreadsheet, diagramming tool of choice are / were).

Certainly, as Mike says, some of those bits don't look like the normal FH text - my narrative reports have "(approx.)" not "(app)", for instance. Which is not to say that somewhere in FH there isn't a report / chart with "(app)" in it, of course.

[tatewise]

Adrian, (app) is quite normal in Diagrams especially in FH V4 that did not have the Circa option, and is governed by the Date Format option. LONG Format produces (approx.), COMPACT and ABBREV Format produce (app), others produce ?.
It is the vertical lines between the labels b, bp, m, mp, d, dp and the dates and places, and also the position of the photos that are not FH-like.

[AdrianBruce]

... (app) is quite normal in Diagrams ...

Indeed it is - don't know why I checked reports when diagrams would have been far more obvious.

It's probably not that important but while the basic layout of the pedigree chart above is fairly common, I now doubt my suggestion that this was a blank template for MS Word or something because, while the numbering is actually not exactly complex (we presumably start with the paternal grandfather of the root), it would be a lot of hard work to manually work out those numbers given the gaps for the ancestors of the other 3 grandparents, suggesting genealogical software did that bit at least.

[tatewise]

I think they may be Ahnentafel numbers.

[Saltrams]

Thanks for your further comments, chaps. I got FH6 up & running the hard way but it is OK now and I no longer have access to the old PC for migration of settings etc.
I certainly know that I didn't use Excel or a similar program - I tried to use it yesterday to recreate the chart and the tedium of entering data stopped me from going beyond 2 generations. I have a suspicion that I once used something called "Easy Family Tree" but ....
FH6 can, in fact produce what I need. It isn't identical but I'm happy with the result. I used a standard ancestors diagram for each individual, created a custom diagram in landscape format, edited the size & position on the page & printed it. There are no blank fields for future discoveries (couldn't figure out how to do that without adding nameless individuals to my tree) but I can just reprint when I add someone.
It's good to get back to learning how to work with the software.
Thanks again for your suggestions.

PS; yes, they are Ahnentafel numbers. I'm fond of using them.

[rodit]

I think the Tree may have been compiled using PAF, customised to suit, or Ancestral Quest which is based on PAF, anyway, I think.
I have printed very similar trees using both the above.
Maybe you used PAF before it was 'decommissioned'.
Regards

Roger

[E Wilcock]

I too used to have a tree like this. PAF is a good suggestion but I myself dont remember ever making charts from PAF,

I think it may be from an early version of Family Tree Maker? I never used it as my main software but I did have copies from time to time. But dont have a disc now to check.

I used and still have Treedraw for purposes of combining two Projects in one tree. It doesnt seem to be there and I guess it predates that.

[tatewise]

Saltrams ~ When you say you "got FH6 up & running the hard way" what exactly do you mean?
FH6 is very easy to install using just its installation executable, its licence details, and if it was an upgrade from FH4, then the FH4 licence details. No earlier versions of FH need to be installed.

Also see fhugdownloads:contents:compact_ancestors_diagram_v5|> Downloads and Links > Diagram Type ~ Compact Ancestor Tree that gives 5 generations of pedigree boxes including blanks for missing persons.

To get up to speed I suggest you study the topics in how_to:key_features_for_newcomers|> Key Features for Newcomers.

[Saltrams]

Oh gosh, sorry, I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on the software. What I meant was that I only had data files from my old PC, so I had the information saved but nothing else. I couldn't remember how I got FH4, spent ages looking for a CD. Then found a copy of the exe so installed that & then installed the upgrades (having tracked down how to find my license codes ). Then, once the program was installed I rearranged my folder structure according to FH guidelines (all the data was put on a new hard drive, so it was more like moving house than redecorating one room!) and finally had to repair all the media links...whew!
Incidentally, I built my new PC with SSD drives & WOW, they are sooooo much faster than HDDs

[tatewise]

I did not take it as a negative comment, as I suspected you did not know the new shortcut.

FYI: You did NOT need to install FH V4 you only needed its licence details.
Since FH V5 only the upgrade FH installation file and the last two sets of licence details are needed.
See how_to:reinstall_family_historian|> Family Historian Installation Advice for full details.

I advise you create an Installation Archive as advised in how_to:family_historian_installation_details#installation_archive|> Installation Archive so you always have your licence details available, although if you purchased from Calico Pie they can retrieve them for you.

I advise that you use File Explorer and Tools > External File Links to move all your Media files into the Project's own Media folder, then moving Projects from location to location will not upset the links.
See how_to:changing_external_file_links|> Changing External File Links.