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Rotating Pictures

Post by frank1214 » 25 Apr 2017 19:50

Hello all :) I have just purchased Family Historian v6 and absolutely love it. The only problem I am encountering is that when I upload pictures, some of them automatically go landscape when I want them to go portrait and vice versa. I cannot myself see any way that I can rotate them on the software. Does anyone know if there is a way? And if there isn't a way on the software, is there a way that I can avoid this problem at all? Thank you!

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Re: Rotating Pictures

Post by BillH » 25 Apr 2017 19:55

This is a common question here in the forum.

Take a look in the knowledge base at https://www.fhug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?i ... multimedia under Photo Orientation.

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Re: Rotating Pictures

Post by BobWard » 25 Apr 2017 20:54

I run all my pictures through the Photoshop Elements Editor to clean up images, add text (if needed), and rotate to the orientation that I want displayed in FH. Most image editors (besides Photoshop series products) should allow you to do the same thing.

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Post by davidm_uk » 26 Apr 2017 10:47

jpgautorotate works well for me, it has an advantage that you can apply it to a whole folder (and subfolders) and it will work out which photos to rotate. I use it as soon as I've downloaded a copy of the photos from my camera and BEFORE I do any editing on them - I find that this works best (I use a copy of the photos in case anything goes wrong).
https://savolai.net/software/JPEG-EXIF_autorotate
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Re: Rotating Pictures

Post by tatewise » 26 Apr 2017 11:01

All good advice.
See how_to:v4:adding_multimedia|> Adding Photographs and Other Multimedia under Photo Orientation.
See Wish List Ref 536 Use Orientation meta-data in Media images and Vote.
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Post by Valkrider » 26 Apr 2017 11:12

davidm_uk wrote:jpgautorotate works well for me, it has an advantage that you can apply it to a whole folder (and subfolders) and it will work out which photos to rotate. I use it as soon as I've downloaded a copy of the photos from my camera and BEFORE I do any editing on them - I find that this works best (I use a copy of the photos in case anything goes wrong).
There is a disadvantage to doing it this way in that each save of a jpg image degrades the quality. You are better off rotating as part of the editing process, then you only save the modified jpg once. If you aren't going to do any editing then it is fine to do it this way.

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Post by tatewise » 26 Apr 2017 11:59

I think it depends on how the rotation is performed. If simply done by changing the EXIF meta-data, etc, then the rotation is lossless and quality is unaffected, but it depends on what photo-utility is used.
See If an image is rotated losslessly, why does the file size change?
And Rotating images in Windows
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Post by ronk » 26 Apr 2017 14:44

There are others, but Irfanview's standard plugin set includes software to do lossless rotation of JPG (not PNG):
* 34. JPG_TRANSFORM.DLL - This PlugIn allows IrfanView to process lossless JPG transformations:
vertical flip, horizontal flip, rotation, crop or marker cleaning.
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Post by davidm_uk » 26 Apr 2017 15:01

I don't have the latest version of Iranview, but I don't see a way of using it to do an automatic batch rotation of files in the way that jpgautorotate does, either with it's native rotation tool or the lossless rotation plugin.
jpgautorotate does claim to do lossless rotation.
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Re: Rotating Pictures

Post by ronk » 26 Apr 2017 15:32

FWIW, Irfanview's FAQ indicates:

http://www.irfanview.com/faq.htm#Q7

Q: How to use JPG lossless operations (Rotation, IPTC, Comment, Rebuild EXIF thumbnail) in batch mode?
A: Start the Thumbnail window, open the folder with JPGs, select many JPGs and see in thumbnail menu File for JPG Lossless Operations -> Lossless transformations with selected thumbs. Note: The auto-rotation option works only if the EXIF orientation tag is properly saved (not top-left).


While this applies to EXIF thumbnails, I suspect it can work with the images as well, but I haven't had occasion to do use batch mode for rotation only.
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