* Splitting my Wife's tree away from my own

[malcolmph]

Hi

I have just moved to FH 6.2 from Family Tree maker and was hoping to use TNG to create a website.

My tree is a combined tree for myself and my wife's family, however i want to create 4 separate websites for each family.

So my aim is to split the tree into 4

My Parental
My Maternal

Wife's Parental
Wife's Maternal

I have tried to follow a few suggestions on this forum but always end up with my wife's family still listed even if I remove her ancestors..

Any help on the best way forward for this would be most appreciated.

Regards

[tatewise]

Welcome to the FHUG Malcolm.

Yes, that tree splitting is more complex than it first sounds.
See how_to:exporting_gedcom_with_multimedia|> Exporting a Family Tree with Multimedia that explains how to go about creating subset Projects with Media. You will need to create 4 such Projects, one for each ancestral branch, possibly with common descendants that will appear in all 4 Projects.

It cross-refers to Create Separate FH Project File For Spouse's Family (13549) that offers the All Pool Relatives Except Partner Ancestors Plugin to perform the record selection and explains the method to produce the exported Gedcom from which a Project is created.

The general process is :-
1) Use the All Pool Relatives Except Partner Ancestors Plugin to create 4 Named Lists.
2) Use File > Import/Export > Export > GEDCOM File with each Named List and create a Project from each Gedcom.
3) Use the Export Gedcom File Plugin with the TNG options on each Project as per its Help & Advice in plugins:help:export_gedcom_file:tng_the_next_generation|> Export Gedcom File ~ (TNG) The Next Generation.

[malcolmph]

Many thanks Mike

i will give it a go and let you know

[malcolmph]

ok - have spent a few days at this now...

select myself and run the All Pool Relatives Except Partner Ancestors - creates a named list for my side of the family (paternal & maternal) - tick
select my wife and run the plugin - creates a named list for her side (paternal & maternal) - tick

two trees down - separated my side and wifes side as expected -

now, when i select either my of my parents or either of the wifes parents the query returns everything on both sides

so select my father as the root person, run the plugin, query returns my mothers side as well as my fathers side and the same applies to my wifes parents - hope that makes sense

am i missing a step??

[DavidNewton]

I'm no expert on this but it sounds as if you have intermarriages. Run the Tools>How Related . I have done this for my grandparents and get
Samuel is husband of Florence
Samuel is 2nd cousin once removed of Florence
I would guess this makes separating their trees impossible as they have a common ancestor further down the line

David

[malcolmph]

Thanks,

I do have 2 first cousins that married but both on mothers maternal side.

and come to think of it, there were ancestors on my mothers side that married ancestors on my father side, so perhaps that is why

there are no interrelationships on my wifes side though, so dont know why that one wont split

[tatewise]

The way the Plugin works is that it adds the spouse(s) of the selected person to the Result Set.

It then recursively traverses all Spouses and Children and Parents starting from the selected person.
If it finds anyone already listed in the Result Set then the search of that branch stops.
Since the spouse of the originally selected person is in the Result Set initially, their Parent branch should be excluded.

But as has been said, if either of those Parents is descended from an ancestor of the originally selected person, then that branch gets included via the selected person. I did say that tree splitting is more complex than it first sounds.

Are you running the version of the Plugin that offers to include Associated Persons and Fact Witnesses and Relatives?
Have you tried unticking any of those options?

Try repeating the Plugin on grandparents.
If that is successful, then you can add successive Result Sets to the same Named List.

[gwilym'smum]

Tried earlier to post a reply but it disappeared. Here goes again.
Like you Malcolm, I am trying to extract a line from my main project. I am in the process of trying to produce information for a relative on my maternal grandfather's line.
My main project is centred on my son, so first I ran the plugin and eliminated my husband, using the keep all the media and sources. I then saved the query as a gedcom file, saved this in FH as a new project called Ann, (me)
I then used this project to delete my Dad's line, saving the query in the same fashion, labelled Phyllis (my Mum). At this point I went to the next generation and deleted my maternal grandmother, however I realized that there were several people who were relevant, albeit as siblings' marriages, to both lines. I therefore reverted to the project for my Mum. One problem I have is that my grandfather and grandmother were both named Parr, but unrelated families.
Using a diagram, the quickest way to see discrepancies, based on my son, I found any spouses (who would have been recognised as unrelated individuals) who were missing and added them. I then added my Dad and my husband. So far I have exactly what I am looking for, all the pictures are there and so are the sources. The ultimate goal is to make a cd but that is to come.
The one thing I did find was that when I came to add a photos of people I was adding manually, of my Dad and my husband, the media file did not have the subfiles I had created in my main project, so presumably the media files are separate entities. I just created new folders in the media file.
Obviously this method is mine generated from looking at all the KB topics, I am not technical and Mike will tell you if it is impractical.
Ann

[tatewise]

Ann: You should be able to create the sub-tree you want in one go.
Select all the people you want to form the main ancestral branch, and then all the ancestral branches of all their spouses will be excluded, but the actual spouses and siblings of the selected people should be included. If there are completely unrelated people to include then select them as well.
BTW: You select multiple people by holding down Ctrl key while selecting them in a Diagram or the Records Window. Alternatively, add them successively to a Named List and then select everyone in that list.

Malcolm & David: The problem of shared ancestors may need a new approach in the Plugin to exclude each branch between spouse(s) of selected people and any common ancestors of both.

[gwilym'smum]

Thanks Mike and there I was feeling pleased with myself!
Ann

[tatewise]

The attached All Pool Relatives Except Partner Ancestors Version 0.7 Date 13 Jan 2017 copes with shared ancestors.
It should honour the original objective of omitting the spouse/partner branch ancestors, even if there is a common ancestor.
[EDIT: Attachment deleted as Plugin V1.0 is now in Plugin Store.]

So for example if the selected person and their spouse both have the same great-great-grandfather, then the selected person's branch is all included, and the spouse branch is excluded, but only as far back as the common great-great-grandfather.