* Win 7 to Win 10 plug-in question

[LarryC]

FYI - Default location for Family Historian Projects changed to D:\\FH v6\ in both Win7 and Win10

The restore plug-in step RESTORE all Family Historian Custom and Preference Settings returns the Browse For Folder pop-up shown in the attachment.

Restore path.docx

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The highlighted Public path cannot be changed and is in one of multiple project files.

Why is the default link not the Family Historian link created in Win 7?

Will the back-up process need to be repeated for the other projects when active?

Thanks for your help!

[tatewise]

The Plugin Backup folder path would have involved ...Documents\Family Historian Projects\Backups but that no longer exists, so it has no idea where the backups reside.

Presumably you knew to change the File > Project Window > Location: to D:\\FH v6.

Have you remembered to similarly change Tools > Preferences > Backup > Default Backup Folder:?
Probably should be D:\\FH v6\Backups is my guess.

Similarly, the Plugin needs its Options tab Backup folder to be reset to D:\\FH v6\Backups which I can see is where the Family Historian settings reside that were created with Win 7.

You only run this Plugin when you change customisations and preferences, which are mostly the same for all Projects, so it only needs running once, and NOT per Project. (Any Project specific customisations are held in the Project folder and are included in the Project Backups along with Gedcom and Media.)

[LarryC]

Thanks Mike.

The key was "Plugin needs its Options tab Backup folder to be reset to D:\\FH v6\Backups". I did not realize that was where to change the backup location which was so located in Win7.

Thanks again

[tatewise]

OK Larry.
I think that is where you would have set it originally.
Will have a look at improving the way the Plugin copes with this scenario.

[LarryC]

Hi Mike,

I finished the Win1 upgrade to Win10 conversion of FH - I think! I notice that FH projects may not be the same re Plug Ins I previously downloaded and executed. There may be changes in Facts Sets and modified codes. The default opening project is missing. I have not had time to more thoroughly reviewe for other possible missing configurations but want to know if rerunning the conversion plugin for each project would improve the results or cause other problems.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks,

[tatewise]

How did you upgrade from Win 7 to Win 10?

If it was by using the Windows Update process on a single PC then everything should have been preserved.

Assuming you used Backup and Restore FH Settings to create Backup just before upgrade, then using its Restore option should put all customisations such as Fact Sets back the way they were before.

Please describe how you have tackled the upgrade process of Windows and FH.

[LarryC]

Mike, as detailed initially, I ran the plugin on Win7 prior to removing Win7 and then ran the plugin after a clean install of Win10. I did not upgrade Win7 to Win 10 by 'overwriting' the existing Win7.

And, as we previously discussed, the path for the default backup and files was modified originally in Win7 and similarly in Win10. The path was updated in the plugin as you told me - and that you were to review possible improvements to the plug-in re changed paths because the tab to do it was not too obvious.

Prior to the final plugin operation, I asked if each project should be opened and the plugin run for each of the 2 options for each project. You said that was not necessary so I did not do the plugin for each project when open, only my main project, and I did not do the project specific option, only the Registry option as I recall the option name. The plugin did not allow selecting both options.

I do not know if there are any other concerns but the plugins I had over time downloaded and run in my main project were not restored in my main project which was open when I ran the plugin.

So, since there are options when executing the plugin, should all options be run for each project which, if necessary, appears to require rerunning the plugin for each option for each project?

[tatewise]

There are a number of points to make.

I reviewed the Plugin and it does cope with Project Location folder adjustments.
However, the File > Project Window > Location: must be set to your D:\\FH v6 folder before running the Plugin, otherwise how would it know what folder to use?
Then the Plugin should automatically use the correct sub-folder.
That Location setting is more important than the Tools > Preferences > Backup setting, because it is crucial to locating FH Project folders and any sub-folders therein.

There is no Project specific option in the Plugin Restore tab, so I don't understand why you would not use both buttons. The Program Data Files button will restore installed Plugins and other customisations in the C:\\ProgramData\Calico Pie\ folder. Then you can use the Registry Data Keys button. All as explained in the He!p & Advice page.
(If you use the Registry Data Keys button first, then the Plugin must be run again to use the Program Data Files button.)

All those Program Data Files and Registry Data Keys settings apply to all Projects, so only need be performed for one Project, in the same way as you only ran the Backup for one Project.

[LarryC]

There was never a problem with the Project Location - just that the Plug-in option to redefine it was not obvious - The Option tab was required to be opened to change the location and as you noted you would review to clarify the process in the future.

I was confused when you said "so it only needs running once". That is now clarified when you say "If you use the Registry Data Keys button first, then the Plugin must be run again to use the Program Data Files button" which was done because the warning was to be sure to restore the Registry Data Keys - I did not know to run the Restore twice and that has been my question.

The plug-in is great as is your assistance. I do suggest the plug-in includes clear instructions to run the restore twice, once for the Project and once for the Registry but only for one project. You might also allow the location to be changed in the Restore tab rather than going to the Option tab - or include a note of how to change the location to agree with the Win 7 location.

Thanks again for great assistance,

[tatewise]

At the risk of going around in circles, I will run through the advice again.

1. You should NOT usually need to use the Plugin Options tab to Choose Backup Folder location, and that is why there is no explicit mention of that technique, although a little investigation would find it.
   1. Set the FH File > Project Window > Location: before running the Plugin and in your case set it to D:\\FH v6.
      That will not only correctly list all your Projects in the File > Project Window but also allows the Plugin to automatically find your D:\\FH v6\Backups folder.
   2. If you did not perform A. above, then on the Restore tab of the Plugin, the Backup Data folder may not exist.
      But when the RESTORE... button is used it presents a Browse For Folder dialogue, which is the same as on the Options tab, and allows your D:\\FH v6\Backups folder to be selected (or created if necessary).
2. You only need run the Plugin once if you use Program Data Files button first and then Registry Data Keys button, because only that second button requires the Plugin and FH to be closed. After the first button completes the restoration of Program Data Files, the dialogue offers the second button to restore the Registry Data Keys.
   That order is suggested by the order of the buttons, the pink message above them, and the order they are described in the Help & Advice page. Have you ever looked at those Help pages?

You still insist on saying the Plugin is run "once for the Project and once for the Registry", when it is actually being run only for the FH Program which happens to use both data files and registry keys for its custom settings. The only reason a Project is involved at all is because that is the only way to invoke a Plugin, but no Project data is ever backed-up or restored. BTW: There are several other Plugins that similarly have no impact on the Project they happen to be invoked from.