Family Historian User Group

Hello everyone,

Haven't posted for a while.....but now I need to split my tree and I would like to use the resulting data on the create a web site option through FH 6 (for the first time). At the moment I do not wish to use ancestry uk. I have spent the last three hours trying to do this via the FHUG instructions on Project, Excluding Living Persons and merging public data with no facts data, but to no avail (I am computer literate, I think!). I have downloaded the query for living persons and run it. It has added the living flag to my database. My question is.....Is there an EASY way of just splitting the database to select everybody from my father's line back in time and just displaying birth date, marriage date and death date on the tree? I have used FH since ver 3 and now I am ready to post some info after validating near on 1000 records. Am I going to fall at the last hurdle?

Can anybody shed some light on this please? Help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks in anticipation,
Pyrenees Pirate

Could you please update your FH Version so it appears in the right-hand panel.
At the very top of this FHUG page click User Control Panel, then on the Profile tab select Family Historian Version 6 at the bottom and click Submit.

The tool that can go a long way to reducing your data to just your father's Ancestors, with just Birth, Marriage, and Death facts, is the File > Split Tree Helper, BUT before using it you MUST make a COPY of your Project.

Before going into details about that procedure, I need to be sure you understand what you are hoping to achieve.

Initially you say you want to use "create a web site option through FH 6", but later you talk about data "on the tree".

The Publish > Create a Website option does NOT create a tree, but a series of textual web pages, one per Individual or one per Family, formatted similar to the Individual Summary Report or Family Group Sheet. You also need an Internet domain with web space to upload the pages to. For examples see links:index#family_historian_version_5|> Member Web Sites > Family Historian Version 5 but only those that lead to a web page with HOME | CONTACT | STATISTICS | INDEX across the top.

On the other hand, a tree implies a Diagram, such as an Ancestor Diagram, which could be produced as a JPG image file, or a PDF document, and posted on the Internet.

The techniques to achieve those two different formats are competely different.

If you really do want to split your database, then this is how to do it.

1. Use File > Project Window, highlight your Project, then use More Tasks > Copy Project.
2. Open this Project copy and use File > Split Tree Helper then click Help and digest the advice.
3. Choose Delete all Individual records NOT found by query below and select Ancestors query.
4. Choose Delete all facts except list below and use Edit List to select just Birth, Marriage & Death.
5. For Other Records choose Delete ... Records left with no links to them for each.
6. Choose the other Delete ... options as required.
7. Click the Delete button and select Starting Person as your father.

Review the resulting database, and if unhappy with the results use Edit > Undo immediately before using Save.

Your original request implied just BMD Dates with no Place details.
To remove them, use View > Standard Query > All Events, select the entire Place column, and click the Delete key.

Next we can discuss how to use Publish > Create a Website ...

Hello Mr Tatewise...

Many thanks for coming back to me so promptly.

I am sorry if I have caused confusion re website publication, treesplitting and tree diagrams. I am only an amateur when it comes to using the full complement of options in FH. I use Ancestry UK along with other research programs for BMD and Census returns. The other day I made contact with another user on AUK who had lodged her tree on this site and after making contact she gave me access to her tree and I found that our families are related. She asked if I could send her a tree so that she could view it. I have not lodged my tree with AUK so I would like to give her access to my tree but split down from my father's ancestors back in time, through FH6. Obviously, leaving out living persons. I am sure that a jpg via e-mail would be suitable (but if you have any other idea then please let me know).

Split tree and publish a family tree diagram like in AUK (with places attached also). jpg or other suggestion.

My second job is to publish my information on a website so that all the family may see it (They have been waiting 30 yrs *s*!!) Again, excluding living people etc.....I did try this the other night.....but gave up on the Merge data bit, didn't understand how to delete the facts for a deceased spouse when one was still living. Anyway that's where I am at the moment.

Publish certain info on website maybe broken down by family i.e Jones data, Smith data, Brown data + possible total data with passwords if possible.

I would have attended training courses to try to get to know the product a bit better, but from my handle you will probably know that I do not live in the UK anymore. Any chance of a training course in SW France?

Pyrenees Pirate

OK, you actually have several different objectives, which may need different techniques, but could use a similar technique, depending on exctly what criteria are important.

You probably know that your family tree database is stored in a GEDCOM file.
Its title stands for GEnealogical Data COMmunication, and is the commonest way of transferring family history data between programs and people.

1) Exchange Tree with Related Contact
So to exchange data with your related contact, a GEDCOM file would provide the most details in a usable format, but could also be filtered to include just what you want to divulge. Whereas, a JPG Diagram might only include a samll subset of your Facts, and would need to be transcribed by hand into your related contact's family tree program. Please ask her what format she would prefer, and what genealogy program she is using.

2) Publish Information on Website
It is not clear what form of website you had in mind.
You could use one of the online services such as Ancestry or FindMyPast which require GEDCOM files and offer the password protection you spoke of.
Alternatively, you could purchase your own webspace and build your own website, either uisng the FH Create a Website tools, or a utility such as TNG http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/.
How familiar are you with constructing websites, and password protecting them?

Hello Mike,

Thanks again for your help.

My contact gave me access to her site on Ancestry UK.....It gave me a tree of names, places and dates of BMD, that was it (I am sure that you have seen this type of AUK tree already). I would like to reciprocate with a tree of this type. So that she can see visually part of my tree excluding living persons of course. For the first step, I would like to send her this tree as a JPEG or similar. After that, maybe I can create this GEDCOM file with the same information on it (or is this the same as the first option?), so that I can send this to her to embed in her database (if she wants of course).

Had a look at the TNG website looks interesting, do you use this site / supplier? Any ideas on a good reasonably priced hosting site?

OK, dealing with last point first, I suggest you Post a new topic in the Importing and Exporting Forum asking for advice on creating a TNG website and cheap web hosting. I don't use TNG but many other FHUG members do.

Here is how to create a tree Diagram to E-mail to your related contact.

The easiest way to privatise your data is to set a Living Flag on each living Individual.
So download, install, and run the fhugdownloads:contents:flag_living|> Query:Individual ~ Flag Living Query. Follow the instructions in the Description to set the Living Flag on row records.

Now you can create an Ancestor Diagram to E-mail.
Select your father's Individual record, then use View > Standard Diagram Types > Ancestors or click the toolbar Ancestor Diagram icon.
This should display your father and just his Ancestors with BMD details.

If you need to exclude living person details, then proceed as follows, otherwise skip the next section.

Now we need to privatise the details of the living.
Use Diagram > Options and select the Text tab.
Almost certainly the Birth, Marr, Death scheme will already be selected.
(If not, then select it now.)
Now click the Clone button on the right and OK the new name, which will become Birth, Marr, Death (custom).
Now click the Edit button on the right to obtain the Edit Text Scheme window.
On the right select the Birth used item and click Edit at the bottom.
In the new window tick Flag Condition lower right, select Record Flag: Living and not set and click OK.
Repeat those steps with the Marriage and Death items, and also Life Dates if desired.
Then OK out of the Options dialogues.
Does this give you the Diagram you want to send?

Now you are ready to create a JPG (or if preferred a PDF) of the Diagram.
Use Diagram > Save Diagram As > PDF File (.pdf) or JPEG File (.jpg).
For PDF file, click OK for all the default options.
For JPG file, choose Whole Diagram and Actual Size (100% zoom), then choose a file name.
The saved file will be in your Project's Public folder, and can be E-mailed as an attachment.

Hello Mike,

Thank you very much for your help.

I have used the diagram bit and created a pdf file which is just what I want. With my lack of knowledge, your help has been invaluable.
Thanks again,

Martyn (aka Pyrenees Pirate)