* Spouse photo output

[craigmollekin]

Hi,

I'm probably missing something obvious here, but I select that no pictures of spouse/children etc are outputted on the individual summary sheets, but they are. Am I doing something wrong?

Craig

[Jane]

Can can you double check you have changed the "Individual Summary report for Web and CD" and have selected that report on the Web options screen.

[craigmollekin]

I've just checked, Jane and yes, all of the same options are ticked for ALL individual summary reports. I also checked it via the 'miscellaneous' reports also.

What is also bending my brain a bit is, for example, I might have 20 photos for an individual which are linked to the spouse. Sometimes it will show just the 20 photos for the spouse in the individual summary web page/report, but sometimes it will be double or triplicate them to 40 or 60.

Craig

[craigmollekin]

....ummm, perhaps a clue is in what I just described above. I might have one photo linked to both husband and wife. Perhaps the image cannot be separated in the reports? Although this wouldn't explain the duplication anomaly.

[Jane]

It's working fine for me. Please go to step 3 and press the options button there. What does the Pictures tab show there?

[craigmollekin]

This is Step 3

[craigmollekin]

http://mollekin.net/swintonpeople/toc5.html

^^^ If you scroll down this page, you will some images for spouses are duplicated like for like. But some are doubled and tripled

[craigmollekin]

I think I might be narrowing down the problem.

1) All spouses have at least one set of their spouse's photos.
2) Individuals that only feature in the Index only have the one set of their spouse's photos.
3) An individual that appears in the Index and one of the custom reports accessed from the 'Contents' menu has the spouse photos duplicated twice.
4) If an individual features in the Index and two of the custom reports accessed from the 'Contents' menu, they have the spouse photos triplicated.

.....I think that is what is happening...

Craig

[craigmollekin]

I also notice though, that, for example, on this page: http://mollekin.net/swintonpeople/toc3.html , Edmund Tillotson even has his children's pictures there

[Jane]

Just to be sure can you confirm you are not using any plugins on the output and are seeing this problem. Also if you pick just 5 or 6 people (say one family group) do you get the same problem?

[craigmollekin]

No, I'm not using any plugin that affects the web generation.

Actually, the only people that seem to be affected are the people that appear in the individual summary reports. It's counting the images twice; once for the Index, once for the report and then again if the images appear in another report. I bet if I included them in ten different reports, the images would be duplicated ten times.

[craigmollekin]

I do use the plug in that Mike made for me to remove the captions. This is what has confused things a little. The custom individual summary reports aren't showing duplicated spouse photos, they're possibly showing spouse AND children photos. So the custom individual reports are ignoring the instructions as regards to what to show.

[tatewise]

Firstly, my Plugin only adjusts the Use Note as Caption option in Multimedia Records, and thus Captions in Reports. It has no effect over the choice of media shown in Reports.

The two styles of Report linked to the Names Index are quite separate from those Reports linked to the Table of Contents on the index page.
You must check the Report Options for the ToC Reports are selecting the desired media/photos on the Pictures tab of the chosen type of Report, remembering that Individual Summary Report is distinct from Individual Summary Report (for web, CD, DVD) and from any Custom Report Type you have created. Each one has its own distinct set of Report Options.
If you choose to include Family &/or Spouse/Children/Fact linked photos, then I wonder if the same photo is linked to more than one family member or fact then does it get included more than once?

[craigmollekin]

I selected the options in all reports to show only the individual's events. However, the reports in the Contents ignore this and display what they want.

I'll point this out to Calico Pie tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies everybody.

Craig

[Jane]

If you are sending to Calico it would be a good idea to create a small project along with your current report formats which illustrate the problem. I have still not been able to reproduce the problem and they won't be able to fix it if they can't reproduce it.

[tatewise]

Craig, a few postings ago you mentioned Custom Individual Reports.
Just make sure you are setting Report Options for the Custom Report under Publish > Custom Report Type.
Setting the Report Options in the Standard Report from which the Custom Report was derived will have no effect.

[craigmollekin]

Thanks Jane and Mike.

I don't think they are custom reports as such? They are basically lists of people that I've filtered from flags (war causalities and accidents etc). I then select the option for the pictures in each report.

With regards to your plugin in Mike, I didn't mean that I thought it was causing the problem, but I originally thought that the photos were duplicates (as the plugin removed the name caption) whereas I realised that photos were of children (but didn't realise at first because the plugin had removed the name captions so didn't realise to who the images pertained to.

I'm just thinking actually of removing picture option from all of the filtered reports (war casualties etc) as perhaps their options are already covered in the initial picture selection when choosing individual summary report. I have included examples of what I'm currently doing.

Craig

[tatewise]

I have a theory that I cannot test as I am away without FH.
We know the replicated photos are linked to several family members (presumably because they are named on the gravestone) i.e. father, mother, children.
Every link/note has Use Note as Caption set by my Plugin.
So I suspect that option is totally ignoring the Pictures tab settings.
Every linked copy of each such photo is included regardless.

This has probably not been spotted before because users rarely disable the Pictures tab options, and the Use Note as Caption option is not applied in the global way Craig has.
This can be easily tested in a small project such as FH Sample Project by linking one image to several membersof one family and set Use Note as Caption on each link.

[craigmollekin]

Hi Mike,

The problem does not occur in the Index of names. I did initially think along the line that this was happening because the photos were linked to multiple people BUT, in my filtered reports, photos of children are appearing too that are NOT linked to the featured individual. For example, Enoch Bentham in http://mollekin.net/swintonpeople/toc5.html shows photos of his children.

Craig

[tatewise]

OK, maybe the bug only arises in ToC Reports, which further explains why it has not been spotted.
The images do not have to be linked to the main Individual to succumb to the problem.
Any image linked to any family member will get included if it has the Use Note as Caption option.
But if linked to multiple members it is included multiple times.

[craigmollekin]

Trust me to the find the bugs But yes, I'd agree, the problem does seem to be specific to the ToC reports.

[tatewise]

I am back home and have tried my theory, but without being able to reproduce the problem.

Craig, can I take you back to your very first posting.
There you showed the featured Enoch BENTHAM page for the Names Index produced at Step 3 - Choose Report Templates.
This illustrated the pictures being shown for his Spouse and Daughter that you did not expect given the Report Options you posted.
However, on your current website that problem no longer appears, as it correctly omits these pictures.

BUT, you never explained how this apparent problem was resolved!!!!!!

Perhaps whatever you did to fix that problem might fix the ToC Reports problem too?

[craigmollekin]

Hi Mike,

From http://mollekin.net/swintonpeople/toc5.html , photos of Enoch's spouse and children still show. I didn't resolve anything unfortunately.

[tatewise]

Oh, so the original posting was a snippet from the ToC5 Report and the This is Step 3 posting on May 27 for the Names Index pages was not directly the settings for that report, which are set via Step 4.

My theory about the Use Note as Caption being the cause is clearly wrong because Enoch BENTHAM has Spouse and both Daughters displaying conventional Report captions under the photos.

All the displayed photos including the replications are perfectly explained if the Max Pics for Spouse and Children were 99 instead of 0 on the Pictures tab.
BUT from your posting for World War One Casualities that is not so.

Presumably the web pages displayed using the files on your PC (rather than the website) exhibit exactly the same problem?

Could you post the settings for the other Report Options tabs (Contents, Sources, Format, Page Layout) just in case something there is causing the problem.

[craigmollekin]

I'm not sure, but the Index has always displayed the individuals correctly. It's interesting how Enoch displays correctly in the Index but not the ToC.

Yes, the web pages display incorrectly also when accessed from my project folder.

I've attached examples of the settings.

Thanks for looking at this Mike, but it looks like a problem with the website/report generation doesn't it.