Family Historian User Group

"BillH"; I've tested it out and GEOapify is actually quite good. (I've also tried reverse geocoding to see if I got y original location). The nice thing about the result set is that it tells one what it found as a match and provides a match metric for each. Here is my earlier post to which a small r...

Thanks, Mike! The addition of the status info is great news.
I'll see if I can find time to try it today and let you know how it went.

The thread seems to have wandered quite far from my original question "Is someone aware of an article or video that discusses the pros and cons of using a particular combination of the three?" I really thought it was a fairly direct question and hadn't expected a lengthy discussion. Thankfully; I di...

You can record the source (the census) and cite it against each event that it provides an evidential value towards. The assessment of its value and credibility is applied to the citation, so can be different for each event ("fact") that you cite it against. See the citation Assessment Dialogue in F...

Thanks, Adrian. I now see what you do and why.

Teresa; The discussion had progressed well beyond the point of my asking why a census was entered, if it couldn't be trusted. I think that the more recent part of the thread was focussed on the analysis of what one records; something I know you do. You stated; "Does this mean I should devalue this r...

Helen;

I appreciate your input. Thank you.
Actually; Adrian did say he uses all three in his post; "Post by AdrianBruce » 28 Apr 2023 13:53".

Adrian; I believe you mentioned that you used all three tags; Census, Occupation and Residence. Could you elaborate on why you use both Census and Residence? ---- As for the general side-discussion about "proof", I'll put in my two cents... Frankly; I'd be so very happy if people would speak about h...

Mike;

That's wonderful news!
Hadn't expected that you would have time to do that.
Hope that incorporating the confidence level is possible.

Adrian; I more-or-less agree with what you are saying. The census "fact" is a good place to attach the census source record, even if it doesn't say much in the actual report. At least one can find it later. Did I understand that one can turn off those sentences in the report? I might look at that. A...

KFN; As you likely can tell from my quotes around the word "fact", I have a bit or an issue with the entries not being called Events and Attributes. Part of the reason I am so careful about such things is that too many programs (and people) incorrectly use the term, "fact". But... That's another top...

Nick; I realize that the census record has some valuable info in it and I do create a source record for it. As I am redoing my database, I'm just making sure to ask any questions now rather when it's too late. I really don't want to re-do the database yet again. :D I note that while the actual Narra...

Nick; I would agree that the content of the record has some value, but it sounds like one has to combine it with other evidence to reach a conclusion. As we typically have so little other objective evidence of residence location, this situation is definitely an issue. The question in my mind is what...

Mike;
Thanks for the reference. I read it over.

So; what still bothers me is the actual evidentiary value of entering a Census "fact", as it sounds like the contained residence info may not necessarily be "factual" because of the rules regarding who was considered a resident.

Helen; Thanks for the reply. I'm still a bit confused by what you wrote Since a Census documents the presence of an assemblage of people who may not be permanent residents, I understand why it's likely not wise to generate Residence entries from a Census record. One could safely generate Occupation ...

When one has a Census record, it contains information that can be used to define entries for the Census, Residence and Occupation. Somehow, using all three seems slightly redundant, but I suppose there may be a reason to do so. Is someone aware of an article or video that discusses the pros and cons...

Thanks for the explanation, Nick. Yes; I was confused because the repository selection was missing from the main screen on which it had previously been present. I suppose that at some point, someone will have to run through a typical workflow in the new version. I am now using strictly Splitter sour...

In trying to see how best to utilize my user-created source templates with AS v 7.7.4, I stumble on what appears to be a bug. In the following image, the screen "Templated Source" shows there should be an automatically filled "Repository" field (indicated by an "A" in a yellow circle). However; the ...

Mike and Adrian; I submitted the test set of 4 versions of Fresnoy-en-Thelle to https://www.geoapify.com/tools/geocoding-online and downloaded the resulting .CSV file. This tool also shows what it interpreted the place-name to be and its confidence level in having correctly geocoded what was submitt...

Mike and Adrian;
I can't say why they differ, but it does appear to be somewhat random.
Will have to investigate further, because this not a good thing.

For me, the biggest drawback to trying to use the board's search engine is that I've no idea what unique "FH"-ish words someone else might have used in their post or the knowledge-base. Learning the "buzzwords" takes time. I'm not sure that dividing up the posts differently would resolve the issue f...

Mike; Thanks for explaining. My biggest concern, I guess, is that it sounds as if one almost needs to validate every geolocation to be sure that any of the automated systems "gets it right". That is essentially what I was doing by using the reverse geocoding app/API to see if I got the original plac...

Adrian; I think I get what you mean. But it's very odd that Mike's queries returned two set of coordinates differing by 100 metres or so. If Bing only picked up the key words; Fresnoy-en-Thelle + OIse + France, it should have returned the exact same coordinates. The rest of the string is different. ...

I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion "that the Bing algorithm must not use the exact place given". With my limited knowledge of French places, it seems that both Fresnoy-en-Thelle, Département de l'Oise, Picardie, France and Fresnoy-en-Thelle, Oise, Hauts-de-France, France are exactly the sa...

Mike; Just for a laugh, I ran a reverse geocoding of my coordinates using the website; https://www.geoapify.com/reverse-geocoding-api. While it has an API interface, I just uploaded a file of my coordinates and ran using the websites interactive mode. Most places were a few tens of metres off at mos...