Family Historian User Group

Tatewise,

So are you saying that the
1 DEAT Y

Is not understood by FH?

My primary software uses and understands this GEDCOM standard perfectly and in future releases of GEDCOM more facts will have this flag in the specification.

In GEDCOM 5.5.1 the rule to mark an individual as dead when no additional information (place or date) is entered is:

1 DEAT Y

The flag should be removed when either the place or date is added. The following is invalid:

1 DEAT Y
2 DATE 2 MAY 1883

A horizontal ellipsis … in the surname field should sort at the bottom for all languages is using UTF-8.

… as one character not … as 3 full stop!

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Adrian,

In the case were a couple has a second wedding, such as:

1 Civil Wedding
2 Church Wedding

Or

1 Church Wedding
2 Renew Vows

I just create two MARR events with MARR.TYPE = Civil and Religious or Religious and Renewed. No custom events.

Forgive my ignorance, what is the difference between a “birth registration” and other types of birth sources? A birth source can be (but is not limited to) certificates, church registries, bible entries, census entries, letters, government documents. The birth “fact” is designed to expose informatio...

For comparison my Splitter source might look like this (I format the source text differently nowadays - this is an old one). It has a title, source text and a link to an image. 0 @S429@ SOUR 1 TITL Census 1861 Newton Kyme, Yorkshire 3541/3b (Robert Morley) 1 TEXT Name Related Age Occupation Birth P...

Thanks all, Pushing what I think of as “source detail” up to the REPO.CALN has some value if the REPO actually represents the census rather than the holder of the census. Example of what I normally do with a census (Lumping): 1) Repository_Record = Holder of the census documents (library, A.com, etc...

KFN, the general picture would be virtually the same for standard GEDCOM. In the split example, only Source Record tags would hold any details and the Citations would use just the SOUR xref link. In the lumped example, the Source Record tags would hold fewer details and the Citations would use many...

Adrian,

Never mind. Since none of it uses Standard GEDCOM (except TITLE). It does not matter any more, can’t use it in committee discussions!

Adrian,

Can I ask, without getting in trouble, what do the two lump vs split GEDCOM files look like?

I’d want to know how they would translate into my own database.

Thanks

0 @I15079@ INDI 1 NAME Johann /Vlasak/ 2 SOUR @S77@ 1 SEX M 1 DEAT Y 1 FAMS @F5382@ Does merely have SOUR cause a 'Y' perhaps? GEDCOM has this statement about DEAT tag: All GEDCOM lines have either a value or a pointer unless the line contains subordinate GEDCOM lines. In other words the presence o...

Bill, But wouldn’t mind some advice on the other faults reported as in images? It may be that you will say the writers of the tool have it wrong, as it seems so many software writers seem to interpret Gedcom differently and its use of fields, which makes it a nightmare for us without in depth progra...

Bill, I can only speak to the GEDCOM errors. However the tool seems to be reporting problems that look to me as if it might a fault in how GEdcom is interpreted when Family Historian is written, for example Use of a Source Tag under a note field or entry. Did you run the error checker before importi...

Could this also then be the place to mention that different people will split their sources in different ways? E.g. a single source-record for the 1880 Census as a whole or a source-record for each county in the 1880 Census? Or would you split the 1939 from Ancestry from the 1939 from FindmyPast - ...

This has been a discussion in taxonomy for many years. Wikipedia say: Lumpers and splitters are opposing factions in any discipline that has to place individual examples into rigorously defined categories. The lumper–splitter problem occurs when there is the desire to create classifications and ass...

I'll go along with all those proposals. In particular "splitting" and "lumping" concur with the Legacy definition and avoid the implication that "splitter" and "lumper" apply to the user rather than the source. Just so long as the reader knows that any source can be entered as either a lumped sourc...

Judging by the what you have quoted, the Legacy community uses the terms “lumping” and “splitting” in exactly the same way as the FH community does. The only difference is that it uses the term ”Master Source” where FH uses “Source record”. Are you suggesting that when the FH documentation introduc...

One thing I'm picking up from this discussion is that the definitions of Source/Source record/Citation in Sources and Citations in Version 7 (for New Users) need improving. Do others agree? I agree. A common language must be created so the reader does not misunderstand the documentation. And all te...

A source is the “Source_Record” (a GEDCOM term) plus the “Source_Citation” (a GEDCOM term) but referred to by FH as a “citation”. 2) The storage of the Information about the Physical Source. (Source_Originator, Source_Descriptive_Title, Source_Publication_Facts, Text_From_Source, Source_Repository_...

A source is the “Source_Record” (a GEDCOM term) plus the “Source_Citation” (a GEDCOM term) but referred to by FH as a “citation”. I'm not sure this is correct. I thought the source was the book, magazine, web page, census page, etc. that contains the info to create the fact and the citation was jus...

A source is the “Source_Record” (a GEDCOM term) plus the “Source_Citation” (a GEDCOM term) but referred to by FH as a “citation”.

Once you understand the implications of each method (enough that you can deal with the consequences of your decisions), you can mix and match to your heart's content -- the 'method police' will not be coming after you. I guess what I'm trying to understand and I don't get it from the documentation ...

On a more general point, we're in danger of rerunning the discussion about 'splitters versus lumpers' and how to decide which you are, and that is based on a fallacious assumption that the two are totally distinct, whereas in fact everyone is a mixture of both; they make the decision on a per-sourc...

Wikipedia says: A bibliographic citation is a reference to a book, article, web page, or other published item. Citations should supply detail to identify the item uniquely. Different citation systems and styles are used in scientific citation, legal citation, prior art, the arts, and the humanities....