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As a lumper: My source record will hold "master record" information about a source - a book, an artefact, or a collection (such as FreeBMD Births or the 1851 Census on FMP). Against it I will want to hold information specific to the source: Its repository Its general reliability/applicability (e.g....

I wonder if the differences of opinion are rooted in a philosophical difference in how we understand records. For me, a Source record is a record about the Source AND about my view of that source. It contains information to enable me to find the Source again, information about what I found within t...

There may be a case for arguing that a lumped source containing hundreds or thousands of citations need not be updated when an individual citation changes. However, by adding or deleting a citation to a source, you are changing the significance of that source in supporting the story you want to tel...

The same Updated timestamp changes occur with any added or deleted link from one record to another. e.g. When a Repository is added or removed from a Source the Repository record Updated timestamp changes. When a Note record is added or removed from another record the Note record Updated timestamp ...

citations contain only a pointer (XREF) to another (source) record[/list] This is wrong. Citations contain a pointer to a source record, but can also contain: a Quality Assessment, a Note, Text from Source, Where within Source, an Entry Date, and Event Type Responsible. So Adding or Removing a cita...

Witness is a one-way link that could be souped up to be two-way... To be rigorous, we need to specify what 1-way and 2-way mean in this context... Adrian, acknowledging everything you say, which is perfectly right (I think), let me shut down with these: Thanks for responding generously & constructi...

That's really informative, thanks. Sorry I didn't go searching for any follow-up. I do know the ticket system and used it a few times, but glad to know informal review is commonplace here. Yep, I definitely have a different perspective. :) It's no contest if Calico has some under-the-hood imperative...

As an aside, I have often wondered why the updated date/time for a Source record changes if one of its citations is deleted, but not if an extra citation is added. Is there a logical explanation for this? Lorna, just discovered this old post and remark of yours, and was really surprised. For a mome...

ColeValleyGirl wrote: ↑

09 Jan 2022 09:30

Have you found your way...?

No, Helen
I'm more inclined to watch for reaction, take account of useful feedback, wait for any possible recommendations to go there and, lacking that, do so regardless only if I feel strongly enough. Which I might in the end this time.

Could you be a bit more precise, giving actual commands you are using, because I don't understand the details of whatever you are talking about. Sorry to make you cross. I hope the following clarifies my shambolic first attempt. :oops: I know about Event Type Responsible (which IMO is only availabl...

Ah well, worth a brain storm, learn something in the process, and I look forward to any other outcome/ solutions. Like this, Jim? The plug-in solutions (or some adaptation of the AS approach, which comes to the same thing) were/are/will be an admirable intervention by the best fire department in ge...

This tag probably doesn't get used very much, but it seems to have its uses if one source/citation is also linked/edited for another fact (or even another individual, etc.). With a census I noticed the ALL drop-down had many rows, a lot more than the relatively few in what I take to be the correspon...

But why, if you got the details from FreeBMD or from an Ancestry/FMP/Family Search Collection , why not record it as that? (Lumping) I might get a census record off Ancestry and give the source as 1851 E&W Census (Ancestry) - using the TNA reference as the "Where within Source" - and I may agree wi...

That two-level Publication data works for me - it says where I found it and where the original paper(ish) copy is so that if you want to consult that, then you can. It is important for me to record the web-site because I can give you an example where the Ancestry image of a census page has an ink-b...

Throughout FH there are many Expressions and Templates that employ Data References and Functions . See FHUG KB Understanding Expressions which cross-refers to both with much advice and examples. To be sure. It's a matter of how deeply & widely the territory has been explored and how good or bad mem...

The vast majority of genealogy software, so far as I know, work on the basis that a Source is the single (usually but not always) physical object that you consulted to get the information in question. Thus if I read the book "My Life in Kenya" using the British Library's copy, I (usually) create a ...

AdrianBruce wrote: ↑

07 Jan 2022 14:42

Yes, that's the head-spinner.
(I'm another Adrian by the way!)

Hi, Adrian, don't be so modest. I think of you as Relational Adrian.
Turns out that Mike Tate pipped you to the post.

(a) Witness links to a single fact , as shown in the Facts tab, do not reveal separate instances and neither show multiplicity. (b) Witness data is completely absent from the All tab. I think you are talking about a single fact where the same person has multiple Roles as a Fact Witness. Currently, ...

I can see Witness events in the All tab, and they appear to show all the people marked as witnesses Thanks, Adrian, that did make me look a bit more carefully. But my perspective was from the witness, not the principal. For the witness they are lacking under All. ... and also where one person has m...

I'd be grateful to be put right, get comments, or have these confirmed. They have hindered or blocked some of my experiments. Thanks! Disappointment : (a) Witness links to a single fact , as shown in the Facts tab, do not reveal separate instances and neither show multiplicity. (b) Witness data is c...

Mark1834 wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2022 18:26

I’m not adverse to tossing in the odd hand grenade now and again...

OK, so you admit to being a bad boy sometimes?
And there was I, thinking I'd been a dogmatic, didactic, right b****d.

To me, that sounds like a good supporting argument for the usual forum advice of keeping everything in one big Project. I actually run 3 Projects, but they are unrelated to each other and are in 2 different countries. Sorry to take issue with that. The forum advice is presumably intended for the "g...

The concept of dummy GLOBAL Individual records is quite similar to the dummy HISTORICAL FACTS Individual records discussed in the Timeline Facts – Overview , which you might find interesting. MM, I did find that interesting and wish I'd noticed it before. A few comments: humble pie - identical, I s...

I chose not to create an extra column for the Project name because it would be very repetitive and long Project Names would consume a great amount of space. Do you realise that by clicking the Name column you get an alphabetic summary of the Project names versus their letter references at the top? ...

BTW (off-topic from a really nosy person) any chance of (number of) Views being added to the header of an opened topic?