Family Historian User Group

Peter, if new data is added incorrectly after tidying up yes it'll have to be done again. If proceeding manually don't enter stuff you know to be an issue. If automating we need to know what to avoid. The solution today is to make your data as good as possible and use existing tools. The future solu...

Thanks John...the instructions really help to get a view of how it works...!

Dear "Satisfied User" :) Thanks John, most interesting. It appears that like FH it uses static HTML pages not a database and dynamic pages. However, I can see advantages immediately. It does provide pretty charts, albeit that these appear pre-chosen and therefore few. I suggested a similar thing for...

To provide easy access to the latest thinking, the key information from this thread has been compiled into a single Knowledge Base article at how_to:exchanging_data_with_ancestry_ftm|> Exchanging Data with Ancestry & FTM . This thread remains the place to discuss this subject. The KB article will be...

Many thanks...I had amended the tiny bit of code and will now get back to the standard release!

Thanks Nick Yes, "Ancestral Sources", sorry, it does launch like a plugin...good program! Thanks for confirming AS can optionally treat sources the same way as Ancestry (one per year instead of one per family). You have identified a potential solution, I wonder if we could create and use a note reco...

Sadly the answer is as described best by the data below. In summary: Citation text is neither recorded nor output although such text can be entered manually. Each appropriate event for an individual has links to both a) the one 1911 Census SOUR source record for all families in England that year and...

6) One fantastic thing in Ancestry is vital record matching and auto updates. With Census matching,you check its the right family, then it lists all the people and all the fields for each alongside your existing people and fields and you tick which you wish to update. On completion it creates citati...

Thanks Mike. In summary what I hear is FTM gets it wrong, and these things will have to be programmed around (if we are to succeed). The two that bother me the most are: 1) changing note records back to record notes - yes the plugin solves it although I now believe that unconnected notes records (i....

A few really rough notes about opening an FTM exported GEDCOM in FH: 1) FTM exports notes as note records which clutters FH and sometimes prevents access to the note data. Examples include RESI note into which the FH export plugin previously put the address. ALso INDI, NOTE and lots of empty notes t...

OK sounds good then, I'll take a look at the KB and perhaps paste some stuff across - I'm deeply buried in taking an initial look at getting the info back to FH today! If you are happy for the KB to be a non-authoritative chat that's OK, I regarded it more as the final say...I just don't want anyone...

Thanks Mike...I didn't know there might be a better way. I'm not sure my unverified work-in-progress is yet ready for such a place but its a good idea. I hope this stuff is useful to others, but importantly I am documenting mainly to invite collaboration and improvements to my initial ideas, mainly ...

This posting may be edited (and become two posts even) as we learn more - I might well be wrong, please suggest edits. After importing the first time to FTM: 1) Match place names against their places database. This will replace the multilevel approach you used in FH which required the use of leading...

This posting may be edited as we learn more - I might well be wrong, please suggest edits. With my data (yours may be different) I wanted a simple and controlled output from the FH Export Plugin. I currently use it as follows: Tab 1 GEDCOM FTM 2014 CHAR UTF8 Media Both Folder c:\...\Family Tree Make...

This posting may be edited as we learn more - I might well be wrong, please suggest edits. To make a potential round trip of data from FH to FTM/Ancestry and back to FTM we need to simplify data using the simplest common approach and bear in mind that we have little control over FTM and what it migh...

New kit MIGHT be the answer but irrespective fixing data WILL be necessary from what I understand. Again, not knowing your old software I hear you have entered "/Smith/ John" in the NAME field. Check the GEDCOM file output. If you find it also appears that way it explains why Ancestry is taking surn...

Mike, due to an error I have edited my previous post (link below) about additional functions for the export plugin. CAUS of death does not need promoting whereas CAUS of DIV should be dealt with as mentioned. I now understand that FTM exports 1 CAUS but imports 2 CAUS and rejects 1 CAUS at input ("g...

I don't know the old FH version but a quick guess is that the surname should be like this "John /Smith/" - the surname is marked. You might open your Gedcom with Notepad or whatever and look at the NAME records which ought to look like: 0 @I1@ INDI 1 NAME John /Smith/ That's how they need to look, i...

Mike...image processing: Using existing terminology (I hope) I confirm that an export to FTM would benefit from: 1) Media Records and Absolute File Links for both Part and Full Frames (potentially multiple links to the full frames from each "face" pic to the "family" pic) - the BOTH option needs to ...

Yes all three exports (preference for your plugin of course) and yes the FTM export to Gedcom...its own data is stored in a proprietary FTM database.

BTW, FTM can import directly from the FH Gedcom, a Gedcom exported from FH and a Gedcom exported from the plugin...which is far better of course. However, it does not accept all the info as it should which is what we are trying to address. Indeed, there are differences between importing to Ancestry ...

Adrian and Mike Thanks for clarifying my guess that Attribs have values and Events not. Thanks also for demonstrating where FTM may be abusing the spec. I'm not into blame, I wish to be pragmatic and remain focussed on solutions irrespective of cause. "It is what it is"! If FTM wants to regard every...

Thanks Mike. I'm uncertain of the GEDCOM spec but does it allow Values against events ? FTM allows this but FH does not - I have no idea who is right or wrong and can't be bothered to fight...I want to address it as easily as possible. Further, my point was that Tags although used legitimately can u...

I hope Mike and others find useful the summary at the bottom of this post. I have done nothing else this week than learning about Gedcom files, investigating how FH and FTM/Ancestry use them differently and considering how to enable family data currently stored in FH to be enhanced significantly and...

This thread is long. To make it useful quickly to new viewers I've edited the original post to bring all points together and add brief comments on status against each.