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Yes, Narrative Reports are the exception unless you customise some facts to mention the adoptive parents such as adding them as Fact Witnesses in some way. ... If you want to follow up on Mike's suggestion above and get some more detail around the appearance of both sets of parents in Narrative Rep...

... My description still did not fully answer my own question about what a citation is. If not a “record” or “collection of subfields,” then what IS it as opposed to what it DOES? ... Actually, I'm happy with the idea that a citation is recorded as a set of subfields, hung under the fact (event, at...

... So, I'm getting the drift that the OP Subject: 'Sort order for Place Records' has been discarded, and the only benefit for matching words anywhere in Place names (instead of just the start) is where there might be a prefix such as the at the start, which is a rather small set of cases, or have ...

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01 Dec 2022 19:21

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If you were following my method with the brackets, there'd be nothing to stop you adding the dedication like that for any church.

That's true...

... When the church is an ancient parish church I usually don't bother to specify its dedication. Interesting - personally, I prefer to have the dedication there just for interest. ... Thus, although for much of its history "Bradford, WRY" might have been a sufficient definition, I always refer to ...

... What "drop-down"? I recall you've referred to "drop-down" before. There is no "drop-down", only type ahead text in the Place box. ... Yes, I'd got it in my mental picture that a drop-down (of one line!) appeared and can't drive the picture or the name away. As you say, it's just a suggestion th...

... The concept of matching anywhere may need some refinement. Does it really mean matching anywhere or only at the start of words (which is what the Records Window Places tab Filter uses)? Food for thought - it must surely mean matching only at the start of words? ... There could be a Tools > Pref...

... I may be missing something, but is a "sort order name" needed in Place Records? When I start typing a name in the filter box I find that it already brings up all places where any part/word begins with that string. Is the real problem actually with the place picker that you use when adding/editi...

I suspect that I shall investigate Mike's idea, thanks. It might also help me with things like "The Probate Registry" - though the conversion effort there might exceed the time saved by not needing to remind myself about the definite article.

... What about "Tunstall Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Tunstall, Staffordshire, England"? That would indeed resolve the need for "the". I have two issue-ettes with the idea, though. Firstly, I'm not wild about the repeat of "Tunstall" (or whatever) for reasons of aesthetics and / or length. Perhaps to...

... Always make "Haslington Chapel, ..." the Place name, so sorting and type ahead works as normal. In the Place record local Note enter "Article: the " to specify when the definitive article is needed. In the Sentence Template, use {=GetLabelledText(%FACT.PLAC>NOTE2%,"Article:")} where the definit...

Background: I have been promoting some of my locations from Addresses to full Place Records. This is so I can map churches, hospitals, cemeteries, etc. (My mapping - such as it is - is driven from the Place Records). Most of my churches have a dedication, e.g. "St. Matthew's, Haslington, Cheshire, E...

... It certainly does not illustrate how the citation structure is a "virtual" entity that appears in many records multiple times. That is what I set out to achieve and the initial result was worse than the tube map overlaid with Network South-East Trains ... TBH having had this churning round in m...

Adrian, I believe the arrow heads indicate the direction of the linkage rather than 'one to many'. ... Well that could explain why I've never understood some people's Entity Relationship Diagrams. Although I'll probably now get told they're not ERDs... I have to say also that I could describe the l...

Yes - the lines between the objects in the diagram are (often) terminated by arrows. IIRC this means it's a one to many relationship, i.e. one Family has many Facts (conversely, thinking only about that linkage, one Fact can only belong to one Family) - the arrow is at the "many" end. (On that basis...

... Clearly if the title is incorrect because the underlying data is incorrect, you'll want to change that and regenerate the title. Thanks Adrian. I'd missed that the title isn't greyed out, it's yellow and can be editted if you choose the right option. Also, I just found that on at least one occa...

Isn't the answer different if it's a templated source, rather than a generic source? For a generic source, follow the advice above. But if it's a templated source, the title is made up of individual template items and cannot be directly editted (it's greyed out if I recall correctly). Instead, you h...

... What about BET APR 1890 AND MAY 1890 as an alternative to ABT 1 MAY 1890? Hmmm. I guess we're back to some sort of personal expectation around what ABT 1 MAY 1890 might actually mean, compared to what BET APR 1890 AND MAY 1890 means. (Leaving aside the question of whether the end-points are inc...

... In the context of this thread discussing Residence and Occupation the references to Date Range were clearly a mistake and should have been Date Period. So I stand by what I said. I'd actually forgotten the difference (as laid down in GEDCOM) between Date Range and Date Period. In reality, there...

Helicopter view... Do we need to step back and say, " Stop trying to come up with one sort order"? (Or whatever else we are considering apart from sort orders...) Do we need to come up with a Flemish format for the name and a French format for the same name? And maybe this needs a separate item (or ...

Do those populated citation fields then become part of the source record? No, the citation fields don't become part of the Source record. The Source record contains only the details which are common to all instances of its use. (Although if you are a 'splitter' you might be able to put a lot of det...

I am a little uneasy about trying to express a date range for items such as residence or occupation - you can miss an important tree. ... Yes, I do try to be thoughtful - I tend not to use a Date Range for an Occupation of Ag Lab, simply because an intervening source might describe him as a "Labour...

... As an aside, I cannot understand why Residence is an Attribute. What would the {value} be? You're not supposed to ask sensible questions like that! ;) Warning - IT analysis follows... The {value} of Residence is the Address and Place - except, of course, they're already elsewhere in the GEDCOM ...

It’s important to distinguish between facts (data) and interpretation (hypothesis). I record facts as supported by sources, so to take David’s example, all we know for sure is that he was listed at the same address on two separate dates ten years apart. If I interpret that as continuous residence, ...

... The only "practical" option I can think of is to Keep the Census Facts (or duplicate with a Residence), but incorporate their dates into any Residence "date ranges" including the census as a Source. Whether by luck or by judgment, I also have used the duplicate case right from the beginning - i...