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... Tertiary source = GRO certificate copied by hand or typed as a transcript of the quarterly return ... So far as I can see, "tertiary source" (yes, source ) is a term used in academic research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_source , and "the great and the good" in genealogy tend not to u...

... The set of people on a will or grave are much more varied so there would need to be a way to add lots of different people to the entry so that's perhaps more similar to a census entry. ... There is also the probate fact to consider and whether each person mentioned in the will would get a fact ...

... Probate Registry / FMP definitely have the edge for me in the later years. Yes, they are not as sharp, but neither are they weirdly distorted or covered in specks! ... Yes - I'm looking at a 1980 Calendar page and I can see what you mean. I can tell that the Ancestry and FMP versions are not fr...

I'd never noticed that... Personal Rant Warning - I have to say that I really dislike the higher contrast image from FMP. The results aren't that bad here but where the image is a lower quality original, the intermediate greys get wiped out in an arbitrary manner resulting in broken lettering or spe...

I generally contact Ancestry via Facebook. Crista Cowan (Ancestry staff member) is a member of this group: Ancestry . Com - Helping, Sharing, Venting (Not an Official Ancestry Site) ... Eventually my query caught Crista's eye (thanks for the suggestion) and her response was: The individual newspape...

... It may be impractical and (for some people) unnecessary but this whole discussion started because BEJ has added Short Titles to some of his templated sources, as shown in the screenshot in his second post, so I would say it is very relevant to this discussion! :lol: ... Ah. Yes. Point taken....

Yes but it starts to get difficult because you're needing to reference something that's already there, rather than add a completely new item. Sorry, I’m still baffled. A templated source can (optionally) have a Short Title just as a generic source can. ... My point is that adding a Short Title for ...

It wasn't registered twice; it was indexed twice, once under the father's surname and once under the mother's. IIRC, this was standard practice if both surnames were given but the child was illegitimate. Agreed. One giveaway is that if you use FreeBMD to look at that quarter / volume / page, there ...

... I totally agree with Lorna that I am baffled by the explanations above regarding a (Long) Title being the title of "a source document (one single item only)" but a short title being a title for the source record. As Lorna said, a source can have a Title and/or a Short Title. The short title is ...

... I have never thought of the (generic) Short Title as “the name given to the source record in FH”. I have always thought of the full Title as the name of the record and the Short title as simply as an abbreviated version of the full Title, which can be used for display purposes in the Records wi...

Thanks, Adrian. Most of it makes sense. So in other words, the simplest case for a published book is that TITL contains the title of the book. The simplest case for an unpublished document is that TITL contains some sort of description of the document that can be used to find it in the Archives' Ca...

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28 Feb 2023 19:23

... However, two other programs correctly label those entries as “Title.” Can anyone explain? ...

That's probably just down to the way different software interprets and labels stuff. They have a different GEDCOM head-canon.

I’m attempting to clarify how the FH7 Source Record Title and Short Title are treated by GEDCOM. At risk of being unhelpful, GEDCOM doesn't say anything about how to treat those two items. It only defines them and it's up to the software (and the researcher) to decide how to treat them. +1 TITL <SO...

I'm not clear whether the GRO's cessation of providing indexes to commercial companies had anything to do with Data Protection, or whether the GRO (England & Wales) had a sudden burst of "Anything not explicitly permitted is forbidden". 2005-ish is way before GDPR though that doesn't preclude simila...

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25 Feb 2023 16:53

I generally contact Ancestry via Facebook. ... Ancestry . Com - Helping, Sharing, Venting (Not an Official Ancestry Site) ...

Thanks - I shall try....

... I just thought that the bread crumbs might help you locate them again by scrolling through the images, like a microfim, and then you could save the link to your source citation. Good idea in theory - unfortunately, there are something like 800 images in a set for a newspaper / year combination,...

... I also had problems finding items I had previously accessed and saved from Ancestry's "Historical Newspapers, Birth, Marriage, & Death Announcements, 1851-2003". ... The stuff that is de facto fossilised in your tree matches the stuff that I copied into FH, when I did properly source the first ...

Have you thought about contacting Ancestry to see if they can help? ... I'm afraid I just lost the will to sit waiting for an Agent to answer the Chat. There is no ability any more to send them an email - you have to go through an online Chat Bot first (which seems not to have heard of Historical R...

... Delete “John” and add your specific search criteria. Refresh the search. Does this help? Worth a try but - zero good matches - my suspicion, based on the "results", is that the indexes to this collection have been removed. When browsing the images , there are no symbols for indexes on the scree...

Adrian. I offer a possible glimmer of hope. ... Malcolm - thank you for that. I could indeed bring up a browse facility. However, what you couldn't possibly have realised is that the glimmer of hope is so tiny that I'd need a James Webb Space Telescope to see what's going on. Firstly, the useful ta...

A Google search found the following entries that suggest it once existed in Ancestry a decade ago but not now! ... Ah, thank you - not just a one-off mistake for me, then. ... This reinforces the importance of not relying on URL links and online collection titles that change at the whim of the onli...

... Are you sure it wasn’t Findmypast? ... Interesting thought - I'm not sure at all. The circumstantial bits of evidence mention Ancestry and not FMP. On the other hand that would offer a reason why I can't find the stuff now on FMP (nothing like that collection name or the events concerned) - FMP...

Collection Historical Newspapers, Birth, Marriage, & Death Announcements, 1851-2003 This was on Ancestry and I have used it. However, I cannot access it any more, nor find it in the Card Catalog. Anyone know what happened to it? Or even want to tell me I'm talking nonsense? It may have been split up...

... I made a decision some time ago that I would NOT treat formal and informal adoptions the same. I only use an adoption event or relationship in cases where there was a formal legal adoption. This is because a legal adoption is lasting. ... The problem is that informal adoptions were very fluid. ...

... I guess I could create an adoption event, but I prefer just to have Jesse appear as de facto father :) ... Sounds a perfectly sensible approach to me. On the other hand, I've got children marked in the English census as "adopted" (informally at this time) - still under their birth names in some...